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IanWillcocks05 Apr 2024 1:27 a.m. PST

I was thinking of using the new Victrix early Saxons to build a couple of DBA armies. I wanted to use them as Franks but I want to have some with the shaved nape and top knot. Would 4th/5th Century Franks have had that haircut or is that an old view? If so, any suggestions? Did anyone have any spare Victrix Norman heads with the shaved nape and never having used Greenstuff before, how easy would it be to stick a top knot and moustache on them?

rvandusen Supporting Member of TMP05 Apr 2024 4:37 a.m. PST

There is no way to know for certain, but it would seem possible that such hair styles would have persisted from the Early Iron Age. Does anyone make heads with Swabian knots?

OSCS7405 Apr 2024 5:26 a.m. PST

+1

FilsduPoitou05 Apr 2024 5:37 a.m. PST

I thought the shaved nape was more of a Norman thing?

@rvandusen Victrix's Germanic Warriors and Late Roman Unarmored Infantry both come with heads wearing topknots and the former comes with heads with Suebian knots too. The Dätgen Man, a bog body which dates from the mid 2nd to late 4th centuries, was still wearing a Suebian knot. You also have Migration Era art that shows heads wearing knots.

IanWillcocks05 Apr 2024 5:57 a.m. PST

link

The above link has some images and also what Phil says in Armies and Enemies of Imperial Rome about shaved napes but I might just go with the regular german heads as less hassle, thanks everyone.

GurKhan05 Apr 2024 9:57 a.m. PST

"Drawn down from a reddish head, the hair hangs down onto the forehead, and the bared neck shines from lack of hair" – this is Sidonius Apollinaris' eyewitness description of 5th-century Franks, the main source for the "shaved neck" idea. It is not completely clear whether it actually refers to a shaven neck – which is or used to be a popular interpretation – or just means that the hair at the back of the head is combed forwards into some sort of topknot, leaving the neck uncovered.

IanWillcocks08 Apr 2024 12:58 a.m. PST

Thanks GurKhan, that is really helpful

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