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Paskal Supporting Member of TMP20 Feb 2024 4:19 a.m. PST

Hello everyone ,
I have 25 mm MiniFigs from the old CM range?

Does anyone know it?

Does anyone have a list of their references and designations?


Deucey Supporting Member of TMP20 Feb 2024 4:29 a.m. PST

Try this: link

MilEFEX303020 Feb 2024 6:15 a.m. PST

Call of Cthulu? OMFG…groan, I hate that game. 1920s pulp/detective is about the most boring genre I can think of.

Col Durnford20 Feb 2024 9:40 a.m. PST

Perhaps Caliver Books can help. They carry the old Minifig line.

fantasque20 Feb 2024 2:35 p.m. PST

Grenadier, not Minifigs, made the 25mm CoC miniatures. So the OP must be talking about something else.

The CoC minis have been upsized and reissued in 28mm.

Your positive and constructive contribution is a ray of light MilEFEX3030

Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP20 Feb 2024 5:03 p.m. PST

I believe that Deucey was actually suggesting going to the home page of the Lost Minis Wiki and following the Minifigs link there. I'm not sure what the "CM range" might mean, but perhaps it's a start…

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2024 3:16 a.m. PST

I don't know if your idea is that I go to the lost minis to look for minifigs, but I don't regret having done it because I saw the "NS" range that I own and other stuff there.nice ones that I also have but not the "CM" range.

Call of Cthulhu (Grenadier)? I'm talking to you about a very old MiniFigs range!

@Col Durnford
Thanks but it's too old a range to be sold by CaliverBooks. Just like the NS range it's not even in the 1972-1973 catalog!

Sorry this isn't a topic on Call of Cthulhu Grenadier figures.

I don't know if Deucey was actually suggesting going to the Lost Minis wiki homepage and following the Minifigs link there,but you gave me the idea of going there looking for missing minifigs.

Which I saw the "NS" line there and other cool things that I own but not the "CM" range.

The "CM range" means Carolingians/Moors, in fact from this range I only have Carolingian and Moorish cavalrymen…

Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2024 7:19 a.m. PST

From the Minifigs advert in "Wargamer's Digest", February 1977:


CM1 Carolingian Heavy Infantry Spearman
CM2 Carolingian Medium Infantry Spearman
CM3 Carolingian Archer
CM4 Carolingian Officer
CM5 Carolingian Musician
CM6 Carolingian Standard Bearer
CM7 Arab Spearman Attacking
CM8 Arab Archer
CM9 Arab Swordsman
CM10 Arab Officer
CM11 Arab Standard Bearer
CM12 Arab Spearman

CMC1 Carolingian Medium Cavalry with Lance
CMC2 Carolingian Heavy Cavalry with Lance
CMC3 Carolingian Heavy Cavalry with Lance
CMC4 Carolingian Standard/Officer
CMC5 Moorish Light Cavalry with Spear
CMC6 Arab Medium Cavalry with Lance
CMC7 Arab Heavy Cavalry with Lance
CMC8 Arab Light Horse Archer
CMC9 Arab Light Cavalry with Lance
CMC10 Arab Mounted Officer with Sword

P.S. Don't know if any of these figures are the same sculpts as the ones in the currently available "Dark Ages" line:

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2024 4:51 p.m. PST

Sorry. I thought I sent a link to what you were looking for rather than the home page.

Go to the Grenadier models page, then click ‘Base Codes' where it says product code lists in bold.

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2024 4:53 p.m. PST

Oops. I just realized I was on Grenadier. So sorry!!!!

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP22 Feb 2024 2:19 a.m. PST

It doesn't matter, it was a good idea and the result is there.

Thanks for the list which moves things forward drastically.

Where to find the "Wargamer's Digest" to see other Minifigs advertised because this range, just like the "Normans/Saxons" range, is not in my 1973-74 catalog !

These figurines are indeed 25mm minifigs, but just as for the "Normans/Saxons" range, without being "S" series, their style of sculpture is different from those currently on sale by Caliver Books.

Now, although my collection is huge, since as figurines, I only have 25mm MiniFigs, I am looking for infantry references from this range as well as many other references of other old ranges as :




I want also certain references from certain "S" series ranges and the references of the range currently sold by Caliver Books
"Ancient World – Egypt & Assyria" declared "Temporary out of Production" but which in fact according to the actual owner of Caliver Books, are definitely so.

Although I have many of these figurines, I only have an incomplete list of references from the "NORMAN&SAXONS" DARK AGE 25 mm RANGE range, the cavalry references are notably missing.

Below is what I have as «NORMAN&SAXONS»dark age 25 mm range list and I don't even know if the designations are correct?

NS 1 Norman armoured spearman
NS 2 Norman archer, armoured
NS 3 Late saxon spearman, unarmoured, kite shield
NS 4 Flemish (?) archer, unarmoured, strange headress !
NS 5 French crossbowman
NS 6 Norman, armoured, attacking with sword
NS 7 Norman, armoured, with club
NS 8 Saxon chieftain,
NS 9 Saxon spearman, unarmoured, round shield
NS 10 Saxon archer, unarmoured, cloak
NS 11 Saxon slinger
NS 12 Saxon peasant infantryman
NS 13 Saxon advancing with axe
NS 14 Late Saxon Huscarle swinging axe, round shield
NS 15 Norman or Late Saxon Huscarle with axe, kite shield
NS 16 Late saxon huscarle standard bearer
NS 17 Viking chieftain
NS 18 Viking huscarle
NS 19 Viking spearman
NS 20 Viking archer
NS 21 Viking berserk
NS 22 Viking ulfhednar
NS 23 Viking heavy spearman
NS 24 Norman, armoured, kite shield, with vertical spear
NS 25 Saxon, unarmoured, round shield, with vertical spear
NSX 1 King Harold

Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP22 Feb 2024 4:44 a.m. PST

I'll take a look at my old "Wargamer's Digest" issues this weekend, and if I find any other Minifigs range listings I'll let you know. If you want pdf of these old ads I can scan them and DM to you.

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP23 Feb 2024 12:37 a.m. PST

OK thanks.

Eumelus Supporting Member of TMP27 Feb 2024 3:22 p.m. PST

Here is the listing from the Minifigs advertisement in "Wargamer's Digest", November 1976, for the "NS" line. The ad unfortunately had no photos. It mostly agrees with your list but there are a few differences:


NS1 Norman Heavy Spearman
NS2 Norman Heavy Archer
NS3 Norman Light Spearman
NS4 Norman Light Archer
NS5 Norman Crossbowman
NS6 Norman Heavy Swordsman
NS7 Normany Heavy Maceman
NS8 Saxon Chieftain
NS9 Saxon Fyrd Spearman
NS10 Saxon Fyrd Archer
NS11 Saxon Fyrd Slinger
NS12 Saxon Fyrd Clubman
NS13 Saxon Fyrd Axeman
NS14 Saxon Huscarl
NS15 Saxon Huscarl
NS16 Saxon Standard Bearer
NS17 Viking Chieftain
NS18 Viking Huscarl
NS19 Viking Bandi
NS20 Viking Archer
NS21 Viking Beserker
NS22 Viking Ulfhednar
NS23 Viking Standard Bearer
NS24 Norman Heavy Spearman
NS25 Saxon Fyrd Spearman

NSC1 Norman Knight with Spear
NSC2 Norman Knight with Sword
NSC3 Norman Knight with Standard
NSC4 Norman Knight with Spear
NSC5 Norman Knight with Mace
NSC6 Norman Knight with Spear

NSX1 King Harold (on foot)
NSCX1 William the Conqueror (mounted)

Note on Horses: Norman Cavalry ride leather-harnessed horses, M-2, M-5, and M-8.

Paskal Supporting Member of TMP28 Feb 2024 12:12 a.m. PST

Thanks for your search

Yes there are differences in the designation of the figurines.

As for the horses, they are the same designation as those currently sold by Caliver Books, but perhaps they are not the same figurines?

MilEFEX303028 Feb 2024 2:45 a.m. PST

You're welcome @fantasque

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