"Blood and Plunder Native Americans!!!" Topic

I got a box of these to use with my ECW figures for some different scenarios. Cost me $30.00 USD +. I'm tempted to chuck the whole box into the trash! I have never seen such idiotically fiddly miniatures. Having to attach loin cloths, hands and tiny separate knives! Just ridiculous. On top of that, they can only be assembled certain ways. So, why the hell are they multi piece??

Oh Man! I would absolutely hate that.
I can't stand putting figures together and then to have them fiddly and numerous parts. Forget it. Life is to short.

I would like plastic multi part figures if all that had to be put on was a head and a weapon. I was interested in these monstrosities, so looked them up. Really bad.

They also have a lot of figures in a strange pose with both knees bent. Nobody stands like that, especially to shoot a bow or musket; makes it looks like they have the runs.

When Firelock made the decision to switch from metal to plastic/resin, I pressed the bar so the bus driver would know this was where I'd be getting off, and that was when they were extruding/printing one piece figures.

Screw the sprue

I wrote and complained. Waiting to see if they off a refund.

Big fan of Sash and Saber minis for my Native Americans. sashandsaber.com Firelock Games really the bed when they switched from metal to plastic and raised prices all at once. I gave them a piece of my mind at a convention last Spring. The rules are nice but I gave up on their models a while ago.

I went with these hoping they'd match up okay with my Bloody Miniatures EVW, which size wise, they do. But geez, what crap!

As a parallel, I find the GW plastic multipart miniatures similarly painful to make. As for painting them, I made two of their Bloodbowl players and gave up! They were so complex and multilayered I couldn't work out how to even start painting them. Yet other manufacturers manage to make multipart work fine. Eg. Wargames Altantic and the Stargrave miniatures.

Khazarmac, absolutely agreed. I did a lot of GW minis for commission work and always hated them. Yes, Stargrave and Wargames Atlantic models go together quite easily. Makes no sense.

No sir. No gluing for me. Painting takes more than enough of my time.

I will agree with doubleones about Sash and Saber.

They make the best. I have some Abenaki with me on my trip for work waiting for me to finish them.

Sash and Saber are great and NO ASSEMBLY REQUIRED.

Just saying. Sorry for you Nick.

Eric

I wouldn't mind seeing Sash and Saber stretch out a bit to expand their variable heads into 25mm, so long as that was it and they stuck to metal…

I think this is the one aspect of gaming that will feel the pinch of 3D printing.

So I got a response from "Ray". He explained that the sprues are made to allow maximum possibilities! He'd be happy to refund the cost of the untouched sprue, but will not reimburse my shipping cost! In other words, I lose money either way! They won't be getting my money again!

Done!

Aside from assembly issues, the posing, proportions, and crispness of detail of these figures, plastic and metal, should be a LOT better considering the price being charged. For example, just look at the foreshortened, shriveled lower legs on the figure in the bottom right corner of the photo.

Oh yes, detail is definitely a bit soft. Also, I'm not quite sure how separate loin cloth pieces add to pose variety.

Wow! These figures are sooo much worse than those I've purchased, in the past. These take "multi-part" to the extreme. Yuck!

Thanks for sharing, and thank you, Bobgnar, for the explicit photo showing just how ridiculous these mini's are. Separate loin cloths? Really? Cheers!

I've never understood the idea of producing a multi part figure that can only be assembled into one specific pose when assembled

And as I said, they would refund my money for the untouched sprue, but won't refund the shipping cost!

Why are the upper and lower body not made up of two parts?
I expect at least the thighs to be separate.
And fully posable.
In ball joints…