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Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP13 Jan 2024 12:41 a.m. PST

Some months ago, I used these rules for two games with 2 members of our group. Today, I ran a game for the final 3 members. Even if you add the two solo games I've played, I'm hardly a seasoned user of these rules. However, some of my opinions of this rule set might prove useful. You never know….

Today's game was loosely based on the 1815 battle at Quatre Bras. A French corps & a cavalry corps under Ney attempted to block a British advance by seizing vital crossroads. A rather larger British/Hanoverian force under Wellington was equally determined to break through. Figures used were plastic 1/72 & metal 20mm from a variety of manufacturers.

The game went for some 4 hours or so and ended after 8 turns in a clear British victory. The table at game's end:
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‌ As you can see from the photo, the crossroads were in British hands. Equally, as you can see, this looks like a Napoleonic battle. And it felt like one, too. IMO this is an important fact. However, more important was the speed of the game – quite a large game finished in 4 hours.
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Now before you think how speed is essentially a superficial quality, let me stress that playing & finishing a large Napoleonic game is usually a marathon effort. And remember, 3 of us were new to the game. So as a side note on speed is the fact that my pals were soon playing like they'd gamed these rules on several occasions. They were actually thinking tactics, not grappling with complex game mechanisms.One comment was, "Next time, let's add a Corps aside & play for 5 hours."

This is not to say this is a perfect rule set. Such a thing doesn't exist of course. For the sake of speed, some aspects of Napoleonic warfare are simplified. Movement, in particular, is not the intricate & convoluted process in many other Napoleonic rule sets. I have to say that, does this matter?

The rules are also open to 'tweaks'. I think it dangerous to change too much, but we want to use 2 gun models for a battery (largely for aesthetics ).
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I think heavy & light cavalry should have different move rates.
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Overhead fire, with logical stipulations, should be allowed. etc.
I do recognise that these rules have unique & clever features – 'Firing' occurring before 'Actions', the concept of 'defensible terrain' and the fate/card & specific army sheets both of which add flavour to what might otherwise be too generic.

BTW a shout-out to my friend John Simmons who designed these amazing replacements for a standard deck of playing cards:
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They're both pleasing to the eye & definitely speed up play.

I'm keen to keep using V&F but it is, of course, a consensus. I suspect that V&F ticks enough boxes for us to make it the staple for our Napoleonic gaming for the future.

nickinsomerset13 Jan 2024 2:36 a.m. PST

I suspect that some tweaks could be made for difference move distances for different troop types. I was not sure about the lack of cavalry counter charge, but there appears to be no charge advantage in the fight, so suspect it does not make any difference, having a go at the game next Friday, encouraged by you comments,

Tally Ho!

Sgt Steiner13 Jan 2024 4:29 a.m. PST

Our only real issue with rules (after only a couple of plays mind you) was the Loose Formation for foot which acts like a force field for following troops (no matter how close) and through which these following units can charge with seeming impunity.

So you advance with a unit strung out in Loose Line with couple of Columns right up their rear, the Loose take any shooting casualties and might as a bonus inflict some hits on enemy, then you launch your unscathed supports into enemy.

Simple house rule like no interpenetrating during a charge might sort of course.

Otherwise the rules do pretty much as advertised ie a quick playing game with simple but not simplistic systems ideal for a big bash.
They do have the feel of a streamlined version of Black Powder

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