@MajorB
You write that "Horse Foot and Guns" (HFG) works better for the Napoleonic wars, why?
@79thPA
I'm not trying to push a square peg into a round hole.
You write that the rules were simply not designed for what I want to do, but read carefully what I write at the bottom (@all) and you will understand where I am going with this, but you must know first that I love "Horse Foot and Guns" (HFG) and will not play any other rules for the period covered.
@Extra Crispy
I owned Yellow Ribbon for a long time and almost everyone gave it the reputation you just wrote, but I didn't like it.
@John Leahy
Thanks John, but I am not registered on any social networks and never will be.
@all,
What a lack of imagination, I was simply asking you how you would classify the elements which would represent the Indians in the excellent "Horse, Foot and Guns rules" of Phil Barker and nothing else.
Even if "Horse, Foot and Guns rules" a set of quick-play army-level wargames rules for large land Battles for the period 1701-1914 we can use it with a representation of troops different from that proposed, because in "Horse , Foot and Guns rules", for 25 mm figurines, 15mm equals 100 paces equals 75 meters equals 82 yards, so the front of an element corresponds to 400 paces equals 300 meters equals 328 yards, do you agree?
But if, as Emory Upton recommends to fight the "brave" Indians, that a dismounted U.S. cavalryman occupies a front of 6 yards in combat, this would give us at least 54 real cavalrymen deployed on the 328 real yartds represented by the front of an element in "Horse, Foot and Guns rules", plus 18 other riders 109 yards behind to guard the horses.
In conclusion we find ourselves with an element representing 72 U.S. cavalrymen, or one or two real companies.
For the infantry, Emory Upton advising his officers to deploy their soldiers into "four". As most infantry companies were normally only assigned 40 privates, a company deployed over 80 yards with the nco's 10 yards behind the skirmishers, the captain 80 yards behind the skirmishers and a lieutenant with a reserve 150 yards behind the skirmishers.
So on the front of an element we can deploy a maximum of four infantry companies as skirmishers.
So you see that we can play at a scale much smaller than that desired for the rules, moreover the scale of the rule is not realistic given the real length represented by the front of an element.
So if the U.S. army can easily be classified for example the U.S. cavalry as REPEATERS all graded as INFERIOR, representing cavalry mostly armed with repeating magazine carbines as well as with saber and revolver, and at least as likely to fight with most troopers dismounted as to fight entirely mounted, such as later Union cavalry of the American Civil War.
How to classify the U.S. infantry?
Like RIFLES all graded as INFERIOR, representing infantry armed with higher velocity breech-loaded?
And the U.S. artillery used against the Indians?
Like MIXED ARTILLERY all graded as INFERIOR with a mixture of smoothbore guns and Gatling machine guns?
But how many pieces would an artillery element represent?
And for the Indians?
All the plains Indians dismounted like MARKSMEN, with different firing ranges depending on the weaponry used and a different classification according to the nations?
Graded as Basic for the Apaches, Elite for the Nez-Perces and Inferior for the plains Indians.
And if an dismounted Indian element didn't have any figurines with a bow or a gun, couldn't we count them as SPEARMEN all graded as Elite or MARKSMEN all graded as Inferior?
What about the mounted plains Indians?
We could count them as LIGHT HORSE, the mounted plains Indian all graded as Elite ,on the other hand the mounted Nez-Perces graded as Basic and mounted Apaches are more like REPEATERS given their tactics and all graded as Elite.
And if an mounted Indian element didn't have any figurines with a bow or a gun, couldn't we count them as SIPAHIS, representing fiercer native cavalry charging wildly in loose swarms and superior to U.S. soldiers in a confused melee and all graded as Elite or if LIGHT HORSE, all graded as Inferior?
The elements of REPEATERS, RIFLE, SPEARMEN and SIPAHIS being three figures could represent a company of U.S. cavalry or infantry and an Indian band with an average strength of 36 men.
The two-figure elements are an Indian band with an average strength of 24 men.