Editor in Chief Bill ![Workbencher Fezian](boards/icons/workbencher.gif) | 28 Dec 2023 8:25 a.m. PST |
Would you be less likely to buy a product if it used AI-generated art on the cover or interior? |
rustymusket | 28 Dec 2023 8:43 a.m. PST |
I think I would not know how the art was created unless it was brought to my attention somehow. I have attended plays that use computers to turn one violin into many, so I probably would. |
etotheipi ![Sponsoring Member of TMP Sponsoring Member of TMP](boards/icons/sponsor.gif) | 28 Dec 2023 8:47 a.m. PST |
Wouldn't know. Wouldn't care. |
The Nigerian Lead Minister | 28 Dec 2023 8:47 a.m. PST |
No. Some AI art looks bad, and it would put me off. But then so does a lot of traditional art. If it looks good or even just ok I'll be fine, if it is spectactularly ugly or silly it might be a deal breaker. I'm buying the rules or scenarios after all, not the art. I know some folks hate AI art for a variety of reasons. I am not one of them. |
79thPA ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 Dec 2023 9:09 a.m. PST |
I don't think that I would even know. If I did know, it wouldn't stop me from buying the product. Bad art might, regardless of how it was generated. |
MajorB | 28 Dec 2023 9:10 a.m. PST |
I have attended plays that use computers to turn one violin into many, That's simple signal processing. Totally different to AI. |
MajorB | 28 Dec 2023 9:11 a.m. PST |
Would you be less likely to buy a product if it used AI-generated art on the cover or interior? Probably not. LLMs have been shown to breach copyright. |
etotheipi ![Sponsoring Member of TMP Sponsoring Member of TMP](boards/icons/sponsor.gif) | 28 Dec 2023 10:05 a.m. PST |
LLMs have been shown to breach copyright. You can't be "shown" to breach copyright. You can be found guilty in court of copyright infringement. Or accused of it. Which has happened? |
DisasterWargamer ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 Dec 2023 10:23 a.m. PST |
I suspect most of us have unknowingly already made a purchase of AI Art or assisted art. |
Andrew Walters | 28 Dec 2023 10:42 a.m. PST |
The buzzword "AI" is not going to affect my buying decisions one way or the other, regardless of whether or not they actually used an AI. |
advocate ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 Dec 2023 11:15 a.m. PST |
I've seen some very dodgy AI art which, if that's all I had to go on, would put me off. Then again, as others have said, not all human-generated art is great either. |
robert piepenbrink ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 Dec 2023 1:53 p.m. PST |
"Product?" Art, good or bad, does not sell me rules. I was going to say bad art is discouraging in selling me scenarios, but since I have a copy of Scenarios for All Ages, pretty clearly I'll buy good scenarios no matter how bad the art. Or does "product" extend to actual artwork? In that case, I buy good and don't buy bad, and I really, really don't care what tools the creator used. |
MajorB | 28 Dec 2023 2:07 p.m. PST |
You can't be "shown" to breach copyright. You can be found guilty in court of copyright infringement. Or accused of it. Which has happened? link |
BrockLanders | 28 Dec 2023 2:23 p.m. PST |
Depends on how many fingers the subjects in the AI art have. More than 10 probably not |
Zephyr1 | 28 Dec 2023 3:52 p.m. PST |
"Depends on how many fingers the subjects in the AI art have. More than 10 probably not" Exactly. AI seems to have a problem with generating human hands in it's "art"… |
etotheipi ![Sponsoring Member of TMP Sponsoring Member of TMP](boards/icons/sponsor.gif) | 28 Dec 2023 5:18 p.m. PST |
MajorB – Someone sued someone over something is a far cry from has been shown to do that thing. A decision in court is not necessarily correct, either, just legally binding. Until another decision reverses it. The problem with the discussion of AI is that there are people who believe that there is such a thing as AI. Much of what was called AI twenty years ago is not called that today. What we call AI today probably won't be called AI in ten years. AI, ultimately, is simply a set of deterministic algorithms, like any other piece of code. Ethics and legality of using AI has nothing to do with using AI. It only has to do with the actions being taken. In the NYT case, if a person who had read all the articles the AI was trained with composed content that competed with the NYT it is no more or less copyright infringement than if the same content were generated using an "AI" tool. Or any other tool. What if the person used a search engine to find the content they read as opposed to scanning tons of content themselves and picking and choosing? How about copying important bits into a spreadsheet, marking them and sorting on your marks to generate the outline for the content you write? |
Louis XIV ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 Dec 2023 7:58 p.m. PST |
Why do I sense that AI Art is the new "bioengineered" food logo. |
Oberlindes Sol LIC ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 28 Dec 2023 8:44 p.m. PST |
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MajorB | 29 Dec 2023 3:26 a.m. PST |
The problem with the discussion of AI is that there are people who believe that there is such a thing as AI. Much of what was called AI twenty years ago is not called that today. What we call AI today probably won't be called AI in ten years. AI, ultimately, is simply a set of deterministic algorithms, like any other piece of code. Absolutely agree! It's just deterministic algorithms as you say. Personally I call it Artificial Ignorance. |
Silurian | 29 Dec 2023 9:01 a.m. PST |
Just a bit of fun, obviously! |
Wolfshanza ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 29 Dec 2023 11:13 p.m. PST |
Art is art…Doesn't matter how it's generated. If it's good (in my opinion) I like it. I wouldn't care if a burger was flipped by an AI machine or a person. If it's good, I'll buy and eat it. |
etotheipi ![Sponsoring Member of TMP Sponsoring Member of TMP](boards/icons/sponsor.gif) | 30 Dec 2023 8:07 a.m. PST |
I wouldn't care if a burger was flipped by an AI machine or a person.
A machine cooking burgers … big news in the 609's. |
Wolfshanza ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 30 Dec 2023 11:09 p.m. PST |
But…are they good ? <lol> |
etotheipi ![Sponsoring Member of TMP Sponsoring Member of TMP](boards/icons/sponsor.gif) | 31 Dec 2023 5:36 a.m. PST |
That pic is the original Burger King auto cooker … so you make the call. |
Wolfshanza ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 31 Dec 2023 11:21 p.m. PST |
Ah. Never really cared for BK That might have been the reason ? Doesn't taste good. |
Old Contemptible ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 01 Jan 2024 2:35 p.m. PST |
It will not affect my purchasing of the product. |
grahambeyrout | 02 Jan 2024 9:43 a.m. PST |
Personally, I would care more about what is inside the box, not the artwork outside it |