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HMSResolution27 Dec 2023 8:10 a.m. PST

It seems like there's plenty of information on Grabner's armored cars and halftracks at Arnhem, but not a lot on the trucks he had, beyond that they were loaded with cement-filled drums. I know there's some photos of wrecked vehicles on the bridge; have people figured out which were his trucks? And does anyone know of 28mm/1:56 kits for them?

King Monkey27 Dec 2023 9:43 a.m. PST

According to Concord's German armored units at Arnhem it appears to be a mix of 3t Ford, Opel and Renaults with some 1.5t Mercedes Benz type L1500S and possibly the odd civilian lorries.

Not much detail in Market Garden then and now, captions to photos mention Ford S and Renault AHN also mentioned is a captured Dodge T214 weapons carrier.

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP27 Dec 2023 12:09 p.m. PST

There are plenty of sources for such trucks starting with the obvious like Rubicon, Warlord and Blitzkrieg. Put what you need into Google Images and see what comes up. By the way, Warlord do a neat little Humber armoured car for Grabner himself.

CaptainDarling29 Dec 2023 4:39 a.m. PST

A diagram that came up when I searched wrecks on Arnhem bridge, says it is from ‘Zwaerts' and identifies German wrecks on the bridge at two different date ranges…interesting a garbage truck is listed 😲…


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Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP29 Dec 2023 2:01 p.m. PST

Allow that some of us are both aged and dumb. I followed the link
and I am blowed if I can find that diagram. It sounds absolutely fascinating and I assume based on aerial photography. What brilliant info if so.

Help us out a bit more PLEASE!

King Monkey29 Dec 2023 3:16 p.m. PST

That diagram's published in both German Armored units at Arnhem (Concord publications) and Market Garden then and now (after the Battle)

CaptainDarling29 Dec 2023 3:23 p.m. PST

Link to actual thread featuring above diagram…

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP29 Dec 2023 3:37 p.m. PST

Is Grabner's Humber in the list? Perhaps under another designation?

Nine pound round29 Dec 2023 3:44 p.m. PST

"Wood gas engine" sounds like something out of Twilight:2000, as does the sheer variety of equipment types and nationalities. Gives you a real sense for how close to the end of its rope the Wehrmacht was by then.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP30 Dec 2023 6:20 a.m. PST

What brilliant links from Capt Darling and thanks to all for the extra info

HMSResolution30 Dec 2023 4:44 p.m. PST

I also found it quite interesting that Grabner's Humber IV wasn't listed among the wrecks. Unless it was somehow mistaken for a garbage truck…

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP31 Dec 2023 5:45 p.m. PST

Resolution, a few people elsewhere think maybe #15.

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