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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian21 Dec 2023 6:37 a.m. PST

…The 26-year-old son of former French President Nicolas Sarkozy is a passionate Napoleon history enthusiast. He recently wrote a book, "Napoleon's Library," which explores the political leader's love of the written word. He's adamant that Scott "has captured neither the man nor the era in this film," making it "his most sublime failure."…

Fox News: link

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2023 7:43 a.m. PST

Nah. Young Sarkozy is right on pretty much every point, but it's only a relative catastrophe. No one died. No great art was lost. Some rich people will lose money, but they won't go to bed hungry. Sad that something else could have been done with the resources, but that happens a lot in movie-making. Sadder that it may be harder to get funding for a good Napoleonic movie for a while, but that happens too.

I've still got my DVDs of Blade Runner and The Duelists. No artist hits it out of the park every time. It's just easier to screw up when you're surrounded by people telling you how great you are.

14Bore21 Dec 2023 7:47 a.m. PST

Glad to see this

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP21 Dec 2023 8:14 a.m. PST

It will probably win an Oscar or two for Best Costume, Best Makeup and Hairstyling, etc. And let's not forget that most people seeing the have no idea that it gets so many things wrong (nor do they probably care).

advocate21 Dec 2023 11:23 a.m. PST

Hardly news, though. Only reported because of his family connections I'd suggest: many other historians have said as much.

Disco Joe21 Dec 2023 12:45 p.m. PST

Couldn't read the article with the link you provided unless I provide my email address which I don't like to give out.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian21 Dec 2023 11:46 p.m. PST

Couldn't read the article with the link you provided unless I provide my email address which I don't like to give out.

Fox News seems to be doing that on random articles recently.

Gazzola26 Dec 2023 4:50 p.m. PST

An historical film that isn't accurate? Must be a first? LOL

Narratio28 Dec 2023 11:38 a.m. PST

So Napoleon didn't charge with cavalry wielding a wierd looking sword? Infantry used trench warfare, he always looked 50 years old and enjoyed slapping Jospehine? Wow. Things I never knew.

Gazzola28 Dec 2023 4:24 p.m. PST

Films (that's films, not documentaries) are like newspapers. Just because something is in them doesn't mean it really happened. I guess there are some people who might actually believe that everything they read in a newspaper or watch in a film or in a TV drama must be true, otherwise it wouldn't be included. LOL

14Bore30 Dec 2023 9:15 p.m. PST

Next time it comes up, my Russians dug in behind earth works assaulted by cavalry will move in front of the works to form square

Oliver Schmidt01 Jan 2024 3:18 a.m. PST

I found RS's inspiration for the the use of trenches at Waterloo (what is the original Russian name for this place, by the way ?):

YouTube link

Gazzola23 Jan 2024 4:52 p.m. PST

There are those (previously non-Napoleonic enthusiasts) who have seen the film, who said it showed them that there is more to Napoleon and the Revolutionary/Napoleonic period, than just Waterloo and the retreat from Moscow, so perhaps the film might just have created more interest in Napoleon and the Napoleonic period and, who knows, Napoleonic wargaming. Time will tell.

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