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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP11 Nov 2023 8:52 p.m. PST

"On the morning of 27 March 1814, the fate of two nations hung in the balance. The American Nation and its army led by General Andrew Jackson advanced upon the Creek Nation stronghold at Horseshoe Bend, in Central Alabama. Nearly 2,000 American soldiers and allies assaulted the Creek position, defended by 900 warriors protecting nearly 300 women and children. By the end of the day, nearly every Creek combatant was killed or wounded in the struggle, with a death toll estimated at 800 warriors, while Americans lost only a little more than fifty fighters. This battle represented the highest number of Indian casualties in any conflict between the United States and Native Americans, including village massacres. As a result, the United States gained 20 million acres in modern-day Alabama and Georgia to its territory, and neutralized a British ally on its Southern flank. At the same time, the victory helped prepare Andrew Jackson for his triumph at New Orleans, and eventually the White House, fulfilling writer Thomas P. Abernathy's statement that such victories "created a president, a party, and a tradition." Meanwhile, the broken Creeks were eventually either expelled to the Oklahoma territory during Jackson's Presidency or fled to Florida to join the Seminole tribe…."

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bandit8611 Nov 2023 9:59 p.m. PST

and just the year before the Creeks Massacred over 500 soldiers, women, children at fort Mims at the time it was the highest number of settler kill at one time

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2023 10:05 a.m. PST

It was a savage war of no quarter given by either side.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP12 Nov 2023 3:29 p.m. PST

Glup!

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TimePortal22 Feb 2024 9:45 p.m. PST

Quarter was given depending on the members of the war party. Blanket accusations have no place hear.
Cruel actions on both sides. Such as the z Tennessee soldiers throwing babies onto a fire to flavor their food though potatoes were mentioned. This happened at a captured village near prentice day Jacksonville AL. One source cited Davy Crockett being sickened and leaving camp to hunt food.
There is also the East Tennessee incident where a group of drunken in some accounts but not all militia who burned a now peaceful Hillabee town, five close villages and killed a large number. The survivors joined the Red Stick, Upper Cree faction and died to a man. These and the fanatic prophet followers were known for not taking prisoners.
There are a number of cases of quarter given except by judicial enforcers who actually started the war against Lower Creeks in 1811.
So much more to say. But the bottom line is that a single view on any issue has too many exceptions.

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