"Iranian-backed factions cause 45 US casualties" Topic

No US Administration has hit anything in Iran proper since Bush 1.

Fair enough, time we stopped coddling and being sensitive about Iran.

Not going to happen. As said earlier, the US and Iran, through multiple administrations of both parties, have settled into a proxy war and neither side has any desire to risk the uncertainty of escalation. If the US did not respond to a direct ballistic missile attack, launched from Iran on US bases causing 100+ casualties, it isn't going to strike Iran over actions of their proxies. I'm fairly certain the Mullahs, as with Sadam, will take the easy route and toss missiles at Israel if the US hits Iran proper whereas the proxies are "free' targets and still involve killing the Revolutionary Guard.

Don't think that is what is going on now … But again, there are many former high-ranking officers and former intel operatives, etc. That I am hearing that surgical attacks should happen. And I'm repeating that … and it makes sense to me. Of course, I'm all for killing proxies and IRGC anywhere.

POTUS 45 killed Solemani in Iraq, not Iran, and did absolutely nothing when the Iranian response hit two US airbases injuring over 100 US troops.

Killing Suleimani was the right thing to do. Iranian anti-tank mines in Iraq killed many Americans. I'm a dumb former Grunt … I believe in payback …

Fair enough, time we stopped coddling and being sensitive about Iran.

Yes Iran is playing a game with our weak naive' leadership. And taking our $. USD While continuing to build nukes and sponsor islamic terrorists throughout the region …

"There's way more of them than there are of us"

Sadly when they are shouting "From the river to the sea" I'm some cities in the US, that's true too.

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So what should we do about Iran?

The big question. My earlier suggestion to get the hostages released or we blow their refineries would have a ripple effect on the world economy. Sokennin haste.

I think we would all like to see Iran's leaders deposed and a modern democratic government there. I would like a covert black ops campaign to begin to weaken their numbers, teamed up with Mossad. There is no point in killing civilian Iranians who already dislike and fear the current government.

We know where all the Iranian SS units are based (the Revolutionary Guard). Smack 'em. Turn every RG base into a smoking crater. Turn their handful of naval bases that threaten the Straights of Hormuz into craters. With the SS unable to enforce the regime's power, and with no navy to threaten trade, let the Iranian people rise up without worry from the SS.

Yes, this could be done: re the Guard. Their navy is very limited and some US destroyers could defend the straits, probably Iran would not engage, nor succeed if they did.

But the US is already losing what little public support it has from so-called friendly Arab nations, maybe only 10-15% at this point. We have to get all of this done ASAP, Israelis too, before the war spreads. I am not confident it will happen. Multiple risk factors. We need those hostages. And we need at least nominal Arab support.

Again, just saw a US ARMY GEN & Green Beret COL[both Ret] say the same thing I and others have said. We need to do a few surgical strikes on Iran's military and oil locations … repeat as needed.

FWIW – The Sub we have in the region is packing over 150 TLAMs, range 1500 miles each with 1000lbs of explosive.

Plus the 2 Carrier Grps and USAF in the region.

We don't target civilians … there may be CD … But hitting ADA and Anti-ship Sites, Radar instillations, IRGC HQs, training areas, supply points, etc. And yes, target Iran's proxies that are shooting at our troops in the region. We already suffered 56 WIA including 25 with TBI … sooner or later some of our troops will die … Is that what our leaders are waiting for ?

If we take out some of Iran's oil assets. We can start the pipelines flowing, drill, and become energy independent then dominant. We can sell oil to any of our allies that need it.

But this won't happen because our top leadership wants to go down in history as the admin that turn the US Green. Regardless of the damage done with the Tech not being there.

This admin thinks they can still make deals with Iran. And balance out the Mid East power structure. BS ! That is a great exercise for a political science class. But in reality it is unicorns and rainbows. Iran wants to get nukes, push the Israels into the sea/commit genocide. As well as push the USA out of the Mid East … We are infidels to them …

So why in the Gods names is the US leadership playing nice with these rabid religious fundamentalists ?

Many of the Mid East nations still look to the US to provide some sort of stability in the region. But again it takes the right stuff to actually do that. As well many of those other Sunni moslem nations don't want Iran to get nukes and become a bigger threat than they already are.

What is so hard for some to see that ? Well again they see unicorns and rainbows. They are not up to the job. 🦄🌈

So why in the Gods names is the US leadership playing nice with these rabid religious fundamentalists ?

Because this is POTUS 44's Third Term. And POTUS 44 has stated his support for "Decolonialism." During his first x2 terms he and his advisors expressed this world view, and acted on it:

1. Western Nations, and the US in particular, have caused all the troubles in the world as Colonial occupying powers.

2. Western power is illegitimate, and must give way to local non-Western powers and cultures.

3. Non-Western nations, cultures and leaders are more legitimate than the Western culture forced on them by the Occupiers, and must be raised up while Decolonialization reduces Western oppression. Islam is seen as more legitimate than Christianity, especially since Christianity is the religion of the Colonizers.

4. Decolonialization means reducing Western influence and boosting non-Western influence -- and Israel is seen as a Western proxy foisted onto the cultures of the Middle East and a primary cause of trouble.

5. Just as Western influence must decline for global peace to be achieved, so too must Israel decline for Middle East peace to be achieved.

6. The majority of the Middle East has been overly influenced by the West, except for Iran, which threw off the West when it got rid of the Shah.

7. Iran, therefore, is the natural legitimate counterbalance to US, Western and Israeli power. Raise Iran, reduce the West so there's at least power parity and there will be peace in the Middle East.

8. Islamist movements are seen as legitimate expressions of rage against the West, to be placated, fought only when needed in a limited way. Why? Because once decolonialization has happened, the rage fueling these groups will subside and there will be peace.

So remember -- ultimately it's all the US' fault, and once the US and Israel's influence decline there will be peace.

Sadly the mantra of all the brainwashed students marching (except for the Hamas supporters we have brought in, or crossed the open border).

We already sell our current record setting oil production overseas.it's a single global market to oil companies. Business only works one way. We are now producing more oil than ever before. But it does not belong to the US. It's a privately held commodity, not state owned and run.

Any disruption to Iranian oil will ripple through the market. It's still a trade off worth risking for long term stability, IMO. But most people there hate us, and this will grow if we engage there. That's the balancing act.

SB, you are exaggerating, IMO. POTUS is taking a lot of hits from the extreme left for not thinking as you describe.

And a heartfelt thank you to veterans here and everywhere today! And to those who went before…..

Don't know if you've seen the one currently in London, but it seems to stretch for miles. I heard London is now 15% Muslim.

Free speech is passed when vandalism or threats are committed. Arrests and long prison terms should be the rule now. Otherwise this will get worse.

Look at the aerial view of London IF you can find it on the web.

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This is actually pretty good and true.

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So, a second hospital hit by a rocket misfire? What are the odds? Is Hamas willing to destroy these hospitals and the people there to have something more to build the victim narrative? Or did the Israelis do this because Hamas is using these buildings for cover?

It looks like there is plenty of coverage on Hamas atrocities still, 35th. And the protests. But not so much about the Palestinians in Gaza?

Todays Reuters figures cite 11,000 Palestinian casualties to date. I am not sure how anyone knows given the lack of civil authority there. Still hoping the Israelis can finish up the fighting soon, before this all has a chance to spread too far.

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SB +1

35th +1

We already sell our current record setting oil production overseas.it's a single global market to oil companies. Business only works one way. We are now producing more oil than ever before. But it does not belong to the US. It's a privately held commodity, not state owned and run.

Yes & no … why was oil less expensive when the US was energy independent/dominated? 3-4 years ago. Like many the blame is put on big business … I don't think that always is the case.

There was no pandemic and no wars. The pandemic meant that fuel use plummeted. Nobody traveled, not even to work. The big oil companies socked it to us later with record prices and profits. This is not about the last admin or this one. We have lived our whole lives at the mercy of these particular businesses.

We have just set a new record for production and will break that one in 24.

This is for real.

There has been a great deal of incomplete or misleading reporting on the economy. The last admin inherited a solid functioning economy for the first year, gave higher income brackets lower taxes and enjoyed two more decent years, then hit rock bottom in the last one as the pandemic hit. But we came out of it better than any other country. Yes interest rates are up -to me they are still great compared to the 80s – inflation has been slow to drop. As I keep saying, Fox News reported last week that the US economy is the strongest in the world.

We are producing more oil than under the last admin, when we were just as dependent as we are now on market forces. It goes wherever the best deal is. Oil does not belong to the US. These are global companies working global markets.

We shouldn't let facts get in the way of our biases Tortorella!

Right, I'm off to the gas station. Where did I put my Biden "I did that!" stickers?

We shouldn't let facts get in the way of our biases Tortorella!

Yeah this whole thing about facts and bias really gets in the way … 😱🤯

As I keep saying, Fox News reported last week that the US economy is the strongest in the world.

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I got to find that …

I guess I have never liked the oil companies, including OPEC, Venezuela, Russia, along with the western big four or five. Just follow the money. And look at the influence. But that's the way things go. Things will never be as cheap as they were before the pandemic. But there has also been no recession, which some on Fox kept saying we were already in a year ago.

Legion it was one of their regular guest business analysts on Bret Baier about ten days ago, soon after the 4.9% growth figure came out. He also mentioned the ongoing low unemployment figures, strong investment and consumer spending – even though people say the economy is terrible, their personal finances are good. And the rest of the world has higher inflation.

I don't remember the guy's name! Very convenient, you may say. 🤔They all look alike to me. But I was surprised to hear him and so was Baier. I think Fox has put too much spin on this. I watch their news and they say stuff that I don't actually see. They do find stuff that the others miss, but they are not getting the economy right, IMO.

There are still big problems-too much spending and waste, Congress doesn't seem to work, the debt is a nightmare, we cannot get consensus on priorities. But we are also not on the verge of collapse. Yet…..

I think Fox has put too much spin on this. I watch their news and they say stuff that I don't actually see. They do find stuff that the others miss, but they are not getting the economy right, IMO.

I'll pay more attention while watching FOX. And other media as well …

There are still big problems-too much spending and waste, Congress doesn't seem to work, the debt is a nightmare, we cannot get consensus on priorities. But we are also not on the verge of collapse. Yet…..

Agreed …

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Just saw on FOX, Army GEN Jack Kean [Ret.] again and I agree and have been. To this level of counterstrikes. Instead of just taking out one target, IIRC one IRGC HQ in Syria recently. Killed about 7 ?

The GEN said we should hit all Iranian and Shai militia targets in Syria and Iraq at one time. As we have the assets to do in the region. And send a real message to Iran. However, again we know the current US weak woke leadership won't do it. As fear of escalation … And they think they can talk to Iran's leadership to suit their narrative/agenda. Which has a high probability of failure …

The simple fact with all the firepower the US has in the region Iran's leadership knows the US is too weak and blinded by their corrupted agenda to be BFFs to use it …

BTW 25 US troops with TBI because Iranian supported Shia militias attacks IMO is a big deal.

Most of the attacks have come from the Iranian border. But we have only hit targets in Syria and Iraq. The first attack was on an unoccupied ammo dump. Hence no film. The second we got film on. Of course the 3rd they said actually took out some militants.

What have we brought in?

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@35thOVI – in a way, we're lucky. The anti-Western civilization Fascists have outed themselves, and we can see how far the rot of Leftist Racial victim politics and intersectionality has gone. The Left courted Islamists as the Enemy of my Enemy, as a useful tool to delegitimize and attack the foundations of Western society. They think once they crash the West, they will replace it with Socialism leading to a great utopia. But as we saw in Iran, when the Islamists attained power they put their Leftist allies up against the wall and RATATATAT…no more Leftists in Iran.

Most of the attacks have come from the Iranian border. But we have only hit targets in Syria and Iraq.

I may be wrong, but IIRC most attacks came from Shia militias operating in Syria and Iraq. With IRGC support. But US troops there were attacked again today. Iran is not impressed with the USA's retaliatory strikes … all three of them. I think the score is now – Iran 52 strikes … the US 3 … In football the head coach would be fired/replaced.

As I posted … The GEN said we should hit all Iranian and Shai militia targets in Syria and Iraq at one time. As we have the assets to do in the region. And send a real message to Iran. However, again we know the current US weak woke leadership won't do it. As fear of escalation … And they think they can talk to Iran's leadership to suit their narrative/agenda. Which has a high probability of failure …

The simple fact with all the firepower the US has in the region Iran's leadership knows the US is too weak and blinded by their corrupted agenda to be BFFs to use it …

They don't fear nor respect the US. And I believe I know why. But that's been all said before …

🤔 hmm the coverage this morning I saw said most attacks were from proxies firing out of Iran. Possibly I misheard.

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We have our answer on whether or not the Hamas, Hezbollah and Houthi puppet masters in Iran will be held accountable for starting a bloody war in Israel and launching deadly attacks on American troops.

They will not. They will be REWARDED.

The Biden Admin is considering the release of $10 USD BILLION in frozen assets to Iran.

Biden Mulls Approval of Fresh $10 USD Billion for Iran
Sanctions waiver frees up money for Tehran as it funds Hamas's war on Israel

The Biden administration may approve a sanctions waiver on Tuesday that will allow Iran to access at least $10 USD billion in previously frozen funds held in Iraq, a closely watched decision that comes just a month after the Tehran-backed terror group Hamas launched an attack on Israel that left 1,200 dead.

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Some won't believe this but…

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most attacks were from proxies firing out of Iran. Possibly I misheard.

I heard, and I may be wrong, that all the ordinance fired at US troops were from Iranian proxy Shia militias in Syria. I will have to research this …

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The 10 billion is not what I would do…but nor is a reward. It apparently consists of past payments from Iraq to Iran for electrical power. No one wants this essential power source, for which Iran has not been paid, to be threatened. It does complicate any overt actions against Iran.

As I keep saying, there would be a ripple effect on global energy markets if we take out Iranian refineries. And they don't like providing energy to Iraq for free. But that's the grid set up there and both sides need the exchange.

This all means that Biden as punching bag takes more hits from headlines without context suggesting he is giving our money to Iran because he is a hopeless weakling. But there is at least a little more to it. And it may help smooth the way for the major hostage release the CIA and Mossad are working on.

But if I may paraphrase Dirty Harry, when are we gonna stop messing around with these people? Iran is a decades long nightmare that we have never awakened from. Don't need a long winded explanation about how great the last admin was….turns out they were @#$$&*@ in the wind like everyone else has.

Get the hostages out, then deal with the inhumane terrorist leading 14th century authoritarians running a criminal network in the ME. By "deal" I mean helping them retire from their current jobs.

The 10 billion is not what I would do…but nor is a reward. It apparently consists of past payments from Iraq to Iran for electrical power.

Don't play word games -- this $10 USD Billion was FROZEN from being released to Iran, and the Biden regime is going to UNFREEZE. So Iran is getting paid $10 USD Billion because of Biden.

And it may help smooth the way for the major hostage release the CIA and Mossad are working on.

Ahhh…now we get down to it, this is a HOSTAGE PAYMENT. Like Obama paid billions for US hostages, like the $6 USD BILLION Biden paid for other US hostages, and now the Dane Geld is up to $10 USD BILLION. I see a trend here…

But if I may paraphrase Dirty Harry, when are we gonna stop messing around with these people?

Get off the fence. You can't have it both ways! You can't make supportive noises about Biden releasing $10 USD Billion in assets to Iran in a hostage deal and then wonder when we'll stop screwing around!!!

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I would send Iran nothing but a bill … There is no way in Hell the US should give anything to Iran but a very hard time. But those in charge still think they can rider the tiger. When they can hardly walk and chew gum at the same time.

Our response?

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Yes I can SB! And I will! Just as in the previous hostage situation. Get those people out of there! Without getting them killed. I don't care about the money as long as we get our people….

But then follow-up….Either find the evidence that ties Iran to the Hamas atrocities and blow the refineries or send in the clandestine ops people to slip the mullahs some bad pears. These people were responsible for Beirut and most everything that has followed. They fight dirty and now would be a good time to straighten them out. Even the Saudis would not mind.

But not before the hostages are safe.

Yes I can SB! And I will! Just as in the previous hostage situation. Get those people out of there! Without getting them killed. I don't care about the money as long as we get our people

Once you pay the Danegeld, the Danes ALWAYS come back. We learned that the hard way early in the US' history. The Islamic kingdoms of North Africa collectively called the "Barbary Pirates" hijacked US ships, kidnapped and killed US civilians. The US tried paying them off -- ransoms, "security" payments to these entities and more. The payments and tribute only accelerated the attacks until the US was paying 20% of the Federal budget to these pirates and terrorists. Eventually we got it -- "Not one penny for tribute, millions for defense." We sent our small US Navy over to the Barbary Coast in our first foreign war, blew stuff up and took our people back until the Barbary Pirates stopped attacking US ships and taking Americans hostage.

I agree, which is why we get these people back, and then we help the mullahs step down. I would rather not pay them, but I would do it to get the hostages off the table before seeking to finally end Iran's hideous, devious war machine. There are some good people in Iran who want change. Now would be a good time for it.

I often refer to the 1983 Beirut attack on the Marines, which was followed by almost no US response except some shelling, and then our withdrawal four months later as the Lebanese army collapsed. This was Hezbollahs opening attack, and they gained a lot of prestige and strength from it as they grew into the terrorists we know today. Iran was behind it then and now.

They do not compromise. There will be no peace from an agreement. They are an extended terror conglomerate whose proxies never stop. Whatever the plan, Irans reign of terror has to end.

1983 Beirut attack on the Marines,

Yes and we still have not killed enough of Hezbollah in payback …

Whatever the plan, Irans reign of terror has to end.

Many GENs have said what to do and I have repeated it. The GEN said we should hit all Iranian and Shai militia targets in Syria and Iraq at one time. As we have the assets to do in the region. And send a real message to Iran.

Then if it does not stop … we start taking out military, oil infrastructure, etc., targets in Iran …

Or we can let Iran continue with their planes to fund islamic terrorism, get nukes and threaten both Israel and the USA.