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Deucey Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2023 6:35 a.m. PST

They expanded to Korea, but where else should they go.

(After they exhaust everything in WW2)

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2023 6:42 a.m. PST

I'm thinking Spanish Civil War is obvious.

cavcrazy29 Oct 2023 7:18 a.m. PST

Why isn't WW2 enough?

Raynman Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2023 7:38 a.m. PST

WW1

The Nigerian Lead Minister29 Oct 2023 7:38 a.m. PST

Because they already sell all the books and figures. They need to sell more books and figures. Even if they go 3rd edition, players still have the figures and historical figures don't get handwaved away like GW can do to 40K. So a new war for Bolt Action keeps the figures and books going.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP29 Oct 2023 8:23 a.m. PST

SCW too obscure. Vietnam. Lots of cool toys and unique figures.

Disco Joe29 Oct 2023 9:06 a.m. PST

I agree that they should do Vietnam.

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2023 10:55 a.m. PST

How about the Chaco War of 1932-35. I know it is more obscure than the SCW (which I do not think is that obscure). And the Perrys do the War of the Triple Allince which I had never heard of before. Then there is the Russian Revolution and the Russo-Soviet War (#saving Europe). All that cavalry! There is plenty if you can persuade the bean counters.

Col Durnford Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2023 11:27 a.m. PST

I always thought Korea was a bit of a stretch, so some of the suggestions seem an even greater gamble.

Vietnam would be likely to bring in more people.

Grelber29 Oct 2023 12:06 p.m. PST

There are quite a few minor powers for WWII for them to do. Also, there is quite a bit of obscure artillery and armor still to be done. Some of this equipment would position them to slide into inter-war conflicts like the SCW more easily.

Another approach would be to go into something where they already produce some or most of the equipment or figures, minimizing the financial risk. The Franco-Thai war would give them a chance to utilize French artillery and FT-17 tanks.

For some periods, the approach would be to move into "what if" territory like producing a couple packages of Swedish infantry to support a scenario where they got into WWII, either aiding the Finns against the Soviets or joining the Allies in the last few months of the war in Europe.

Grelber

troopwo Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2023 12:40 p.m. PST

Indochina and Algeria would be pretty complementary to WW2 and Korea.

Weapons and organization similarities, just additions to some French, Vietminh and North African weapons and uniforms a bit.

Similarly Malaysia, Kenyan or Indo-Pakistan prior to 1971.

Personal logo Extra Crispy Sponsoring Member of TMP29 Oct 2023 1:20 p.m. PST

I doubt there's enough interest in the more obscure wars to justify the investment. I've heard of the Chaco Wars but no nothing about them. How many books would they sell? Enough to even cover printing costs? I doubt it. Same goes for Algeria.

I *might* see them doing some books of scenarios and army lists if they had someone passionate enough to write them for free.

But Vietnam or Cold War work with their business model. Lots of kit, lots of theaters, and lots of factions/forces to cover with models and books.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP29 Oct 2023 1:23 p.m. PST

Hmmph. Don't forget Aden.

Korea is handy because so many nations sent small contingents. Where else would you find a Luxembourg rifle platoon for a possible army? Vietnam also abounds with "factions." SCW IS, I think, obscure to some of the Bolt Action contingent, though I may be doing them wrong.

But as a manufacturer, I'd be tempted to pick some catchy title like "Wars of National Liberation" do all the colorful stuff from 1950-1975, and not tell the cash customers that Five Commando never actually fought the Khmer Rouge.

smithsco29 Oct 2023 2:05 p.m. PST

Start with V3 that shifts it to a D10 system. Then when WWII is all tapped out again, make a Vietnam supplement.

If Vietnam is successful run out another version for 2001-2020. Encompass war on terror, Russia's interventions in Ukraine and Syria, as well as hypothetical conflicts.

Zephyr129 Oct 2023 2:29 p.m. PST

There were uncounted operations in WW2 that could be mined for scenarios/special battle books, so I don't think they'd run out of any material… ;-)

Louis XIV29 Oct 2023 4:37 p.m. PST

Epic Scale?

GReg BRad30 Oct 2023 3:18 a.m. PST

I don't think they must go WW2 V3 as they will only be following FOW and Warhammer. Leave it as is let people house rule to their content and continue expanding Campaign material. They could move into Vietnam as this may attract more to the game but other then that I cant see anything else.
They may even look into making BA Firefight a bit more character based using their SAS character figures and expanding them.

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP30 Oct 2023 5:52 a.m. PST

I think it is ready for V3 just to fix the Machinegun issue / pt cost.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP30 Oct 2023 9:20 a.m. PST

They could venture into minor countries if they think the sales are there. They can also combine sprues to make dedicated boxes for minor countries. They have a piece on their site about making Romanians out of German, French and Italian sprues. Box 'em up and give the gamer what they need in a single package. Early war Pacific may sell.

smithsco30 Oct 2023 7:21 p.m. PST

V3 is new essay to streamline and rebalance everything since it is a point driven game. I think Priestly will want it to move to D10 like some of his more recent rules based off of Bolt Action.

WWI skirmish is a bit saturated right now. Not many popular platoonish sized rules for Vietnam through the present. Would be very easy to adapt Bolt Action. Also follows the model Battlefront used. Team Yankee is what has kept Battlefront relevant as flames of war has faded amongst wargamers

Louis XIV31 Oct 2023 4:44 a.m. PST

Would a D10 based V3 kill the game? Flames of War basically died here with the V2-3 change.

The Walord folks probably lived through the GW Epic 40,000 fiasco

Volleyfire28 Nov 2023 1:45 p.m. PST

I think with Rubicon already doing plastic figures for Vietnam as well as many vehicles there wouldn't really be much room for another supplier for that conflict. I'd say Arab/Israeli war of 68 would be more suitable, lots of ex WW2 equipment but enough modern stuff to make it unique.

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP03 Dec 2023 6:08 p.m. PST

Change things up and bring a Battalion scale game to market. Based loosely on BA. You sell new rules, new minis, and supplements.

Personal logo etotheipi Sponsoring Member of TMP05 Dec 2023 2:32 p.m. PST

Disney World.

Fred Cartwright07 Dec 2023 2:14 a.m. PST

@Extra Crispy, Not sure Spanish Civil war is such a big stretch. Current Blitzkrieg Germans and Italians would work for Condor Legion and CTV. Panzer 1, BT and T-26 too. Lots of cool "factions" to do. Considering they have already done BUF for their fictional See Lowe book they are not averse to trying something a bit less main stream.
Vietnam has lots of cool stuff if you play US or ARVN. Less so for VC. The problem with Vietnam is persuading people to play the Communist forces.

Wolfhag08 Feb 2024 9:18 a.m. PST

Achtung Panzer:

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Wolfgang

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP28 Feb 2024 11:30 p.m. PST

Spanish Civil War
Chaco War
Balkans Wars
China Vs. Japan
Chinese Civil War

David Manley29 Feb 2024 2:11 a.m. PST

WW1 naval.

The Tooth Fairy09 May 2024 1:47 p.m. PST

Move the combat resolution to a 2d6 or d10 based system for a start……

Atheling28 May 2024 5:06 a.m. PST

Old Contemptible


Spanish Civil War
Chaco War
Balkans Wars
China Vs. Japan
Chinese Civil War

Apparently they were asked at a Warlord Games Day about the chances of seeing a Spanish civil War version and the room was silent. Read into that what you want(???)

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