hi EEE ya  | 26 Oct 2023 8:56 a.m. PST |
Hello everyone, For the campaign of 1809,with which cannons and limbers of the right size could I equip my 25 mm MiniFig Bavarian artillerymen figures? Thank you |
| hi EEE ya | 26 Oct 2023 11:00 p.m. PST |
Nobody plays the Bavarians of the Napoleonic era? |
| Zippee | 27 Oct 2023 4:42 a.m. PST |
They require their own – you could probably get away with Austrian 6pdr and 12pdr but the limbers are unique. |
| von Winterfeldt | 27 Oct 2023 7:59 a.m. PST |
Quite a few do game with Bavarians, best option would be Perrys they are meticulously researched and the range is extensive, along with excellent artillery and wagon trains. |
| hi EEE ya | 28 Oct 2023 12:41 a.m. PST |
@Zippee Thank you @von Winterfeldt Yes I saw that but what is the correct limber for the Bavarian artillery of the Napoleonic era? The one from Lancashire games (also illustrated in the Volume 2 – page 66 of the "L'uniforme et les armes des soldats du Premier Empire" by Fred and Liliane Funcken). link or those from Perry Miniatures which are very different? link link |
| von Winterfeldt | 28 Oct 2023 10:10 a.m. PST |
My bet is on the Perrys one. |
| hi EEE ya | 28 Oct 2023 11:57 p.m. PST |
I'm waiting because the Funcken/Lancashire games one looks so strange that it couldn't have been invented. |
| DHautpol | 31 Oct 2023 8:08 a.m. PST |
I don't know if there are any Bavarian limbers from the period still in existence, but I wonder if the Funcken illustration, and subsequently the Lancashire Games model, is a mis-interpretation. The Perry model shows an open framework around the rear of the seat. If the Funckens were working from an old line drawing, they may have incorrectly assumed that the seat back was solid. |
| hi EEE ya | 01 Nov 2023 2:49 a.m. PST |
They are both completely different, but the one from Funcken/Lancashire I like because it is so strange that it couldn't have been invented. |
| von Winterfeldt | 04 Nov 2023 3:02 a.m. PST |
I looked at quite a few contemporary images, they are in line with the Perrys, not that surprising, there the Perrys are one of the very few manufacturers for Napoleonic period who care to do painstanking research, I cannot back Funcken on this. |
| hi EEE ya | 04 Nov 2023 8:32 a.m. PST |
However, the funcken have found their model somewhere! |
| von Winterfeldt | 06 Nov 2023 5:26 a.m. PST |
best ask Funcken then, I spent quite a time to look at the contemporary images |
| 14Bore | 06 Nov 2023 5:31 a.m. PST |
Oddly this came up on my to do list, my Bavarians artillery have no limbers and secured a boat load of draft horses at Fall In. So need to figure out which limber will be closest.
From Napoleonic Artillery book British might be closest
Working in 15mm scale |
| Prince of Essling | 06 Nov 2023 5:37 a.m. PST |
DO NOT RELY ON FUNCKENS – nice picture books they are (and were among the first uniform books I owned many, many moons ago….). As VW says use contemporary sources. Also very good are "Organisation, Bekleidung, Ausrüstung und Bewaffnung der Königlich Bayerischen Armee von 1806 bis zur Neuzeit" by A. Oehrlein & E. Nister & L. Braun; "Die Uniformen der Das Bayerische Heer von 1682 bis 1848" by Ludwig Behringer etc.. |
| hi EEE ya | 07 Nov 2023 1:21 a.m. PST |
@von Winterfeldt Fred Funcken died at the age of 91 on May 16, 2013 at the age of 91 in Brussels and his wife Liliane at the age of 88 on September 26, 2015 also in Brussels. @14Bore We just need to know where this limber designed by the Funncken couple and reproduced by Lancashire Games comes from. @Prince of Essling Yes it's true now they're just beautiful picture books, but I would absolutely like to know where this limber comes from,,because they were not invented. |
| 14Bore | 07 Nov 2023 4:06 a.m. PST |
My Bavarians have 2 light and 1 12 per, no oob just what was left over and they got for the game board. Last battle they had to borrow Russian limbers |
| hi EEE ya | 07 Nov 2023 7:18 a.m. PST |
@14Bore I want only to know where the limbers illustrated by the Funcken couple come from. |
takes the plunge!
