Help support TMP


"Why no Tudors in Kingmaker?" Topic


5 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

Please be courteous toward your fellow TMP members.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the War of the Roses Message Board


Areas of Interest

Medieval
Renaissance

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Recent Link


Featured Ruleset


Featured Showcase Article

1:600 Xebec

An unusual addition for your Age of Sail fleets.


Featured Profile Article

Editor Julia's 2015 Christmas Project

Editor Julia would like your support for a special project.


1,203 hits since 21 Oct 2023
©1994-2025 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?


TMP logo

Membership

Please sign in to your membership account, or, if you are not yet a member, please sign up for your free membership account.
Deucey Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2023 3:31 p.m. PST

I assume Henry falls under Beaufort, but what about Jasper?

He was a major player.

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2023 3:32 p.m. PST

I assume Henry falls under Beaufort, but what about Jasper?

He was a major player.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2023 3:44 p.m. PST

I've wondered myself. Possibly not major enough? Plenty of landed families and the Tydders were not exactly names to conjure with. I suspect Jasper looks more important now because of Henry. The genealogy people talk about "promotion by descendant."

Personal logo Dal Gavan Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2023 8:19 p.m. PST

Only room for so many nobles in the game?

Swampster28 Oct 2023 7:51 a.m. PST

If it is the same as the original, Beaufort counts as an heir as long as he is in play when the last Lancastrian is removed. This is to represent Henry Tudor.
The blog by the designer of the new version goes into some of the rationale. The various lords represent factions – the Scrope card is given of an example of an amalgam of various people. IN the new version, only one extra noble is included – De Vere, Earl of Oxford. The 12th and 13th earls were far bigger players in the Wars than the Tudors, but they have only just been introduced to the game.
Play balance is also a factor. With the various towns and royal castles in N. Wales, an additional castle would make the region even more crowded.

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.