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Personal logo Sgt Slag Supporting Member of TMP19 Oct 2023 7:29 a.m. PST

If you want/need affordable, true 25mm fantasy figures, Red Box has some new sets out, for very affordable prices!

SOUTHERN KINGDOM WARRIORS RANGERS & SCOUTS Set #1: 25mm not-LOTR Rangers, armed with bows, and swords; 48 figures, at $0.29 USD per figure, delivered to a US address, from Ukraine. Review here. These figures have molded-in-place weapons.

Alliance Southern Kingdom Warriors 2: Heavy Cavalry, Plate Mail riders, some horses have Plate Barding, some have Chain Mail Barding, others have no Barding. 12 Riders and Mounts for $1.36 USD/rider & mount, 25mm tall riders. Review here. These figures have various weapons which slide into their hands: swords, axes, and lances.

Windy Bay Warriors (set 1) Heavy Cavalry (12 figures): Plate Mail Riders, same horses, as above. 12 Riders and Mounts for $1.36 USD/rider & mount, 25mm tall riders. These figures have various weapons which slide into their hands: flails, swords, and lances. Review here.

Nice sets. I've used automotive spray can gray primer, followed by acrylic paint, on many Red Box Alliance sets of figures. They paint up just like metal and resin miniatures do. The sculpting is very good. When glued to an MDF base, with texturing applied, they are superb for wargames and for RPG sessions, alike. These are among the most affordable miniatures on the market, today. Cheers!

45thdiv19 Oct 2023 7:46 a.m. PST

These are listed as 1/72 which is closer to 20mm. They look nice though.

Personal logo Sgt Slag Supporting Member of TMP19 Oct 2023 7:52 a.m. PST

PSR states that the figures are 25mm tall -- the riders, not the horses. PSR always measures the height of the men/monsters, not the rider + mount height, which makes these the so-called, "true 25mm" figures. That is what I love about PSR's reviews: they tell you exactly how tall the figures are, if they were standing straight.

I know this to be true because I've measured Red Box Alliance figures I purchased, and compared my measurements to what PSR published on their reviews of said figures on their site. I find PSR invaluable for finding figures I can use, without having to buy samples, to check their actual sizes. Cheers!

FourDJones19 Oct 2023 8:12 a.m. PST

1/76 is closer to 20mm.

doubleones19 Oct 2023 9:56 a.m. PST

I'm impressed that this Ukranian company is producing entirely new product these days! I had quite a bit of their stuff, but it's nice to see that they're still going strong.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP19 Oct 2023 10:28 a.m. PST

^ No kidding.

Nice looking figures.

Dagwood19 Oct 2023 10:47 a.m. PST

Neither 1/72nd not 1/76th is 20mm. Six feet is 25.4mm at 1/72, and 24mm in 1/76th. The only reason they are often called 20mm is that those figures that are usually called 25mm are 27-28mm tall.

It's pointless being too critical about other people's definition of scales.

Personal logo 20thmaine Supporting Member of TMP19 Oct 2023 3:04 p.m. PST

Dark Alliance are some of the best "20nm" / true 25mm figures around, great figures at a great price

Albus Malum20 Oct 2023 7:23 p.m. PST

Personally, I think calling 1/72 or True 25mm to be 20mm is stupid, I also think the TMP board should be renamed to 1/72 instead of 20mm.

To my knowledge, there are not any "20"mm fantasy figures sold, at least not in any quantity, but there are a lot of 25mm and 1/72 mm sold.

I think I have a box or two of RedBox miniatures, nice minis, and those new ones are nice, only I do 15mm/18mm and 28mm and dont really need another scale:)

Dagwood21 Oct 2023 12:59 a.m. PST

Someone on another thread, the other day, referred to 1/72nd as 18mm. So has scale creep in the 15mm market now got so bad that we can now use them with the so-called"20mm" figures ?

Personal logo Sgt Slag Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2023 7:37 a.m. PST

This is why I stated their actual heights, not their scale. Scale, in fantasy, is meaningless…

One person's Elf is 7 feet tall, while another's is 4-5 feet tall. I can translate their figure scale easily enough. That is why I tend to reference figures by their actual heights, in millimeters, rather than a meaningless scale.

Scale creep has rendered the concept of figure scale virtually meaningless. Figure makers need to post the heights/sizes of their figures in millimeters, so customers can know whether they will work for them, or not. Cheers!

Dagwood21 Oct 2023 10:47 a.m. PST

And even then you need to define whether you are measuring to the eyes or to the top of the head !!

Personal logo Mister Tibbles Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2023 4:04 p.m. PST

I've seen photos of Dark Allience with a lot of flash, except when the sets are just released. This has scared me away from them because I would need boxes of the earlier sets. I don't think they remould often or at all. Am I wrong?

Personal logo Sgt Slag Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2023 5:01 p.m. PST

To date, having bought 10+ boxed sets from Red Box, I haven't seen much flash in any of them -- small bits of flash on a few figures, but not enough to cause problems. Buy one sample box, and see how they are. Cheers!

John Leahy Sponsoring Member of TMP21 Oct 2023 7:41 p.m. PST

My experience has been the same as Sgt Slag. I have bought around 50+ boxes and minimal flash so far.



Personal logo Mister Tibbles Supporting Member of TMP22 Oct 2023 4:15 p.m. PST

Good to hear!

Albus Malum22 Oct 2023 9:21 p.m. PST

I have a couple boxes of Redbox, not many though, and they are fine, no flashing really to speak of, better then most!

Oh, and the scale thing, drives me nuts, even 3d printing stuff.

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