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13 Oct 2023 1:19 p.m. PST
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Lilian13 Oct 2023 12:27 p.m. PST

forthcoming René Chartrand's book…
ARMIES AND WARS OF THE FRENCH EAST INDIA COMPANIES 1664-1770
European, Asian and African Soldiers in India, Africa, the Far East and Louisiana

From the early seveneteenth century a multitude of French East or West India companies holding overseas trade monopolies and privileges were active in various parts of the world, especially in Africa and Asia. From 1719, they were united into a single vast Compagnie des Indes (Company of the Indies) known to the anglophone world as the French East India Company, It was far more than that, for its trade privileges also covered Africa, other places in Asia from Arabia to China, and North America.

Besides a multitude of usually modestly fortified trade lodges and factories, these companies were the actual government representing the Kingdom of France over substantial parts of Africa, India and the Indian Ocean islands as well as Louisiana in America from 1716 to 1731. The profits were expected to cover government operations. The companies had the power ‘to make war' where they operated and thus private-sector military conflicts often occurred. They therefore maintained their own private armies and navies that were totally independent from those of the King of France.

These private troops were usually very modest until the formation of the Compagnie des Indes in 1719. Thereafter, as the French company expanded and became involved in the politics of the crumbling Mughal Empire in India, especially during the rule of the imperial visionary Dupleix, the fairly modest number of European soldiers was greatly expanded by enlisting many thousands of Indian soldiers who were given European training, weapons and sometimes uniforms. It was at the 1746 Battle of Aydar that Compagnie des Indes French soldiers and sepoys utterly defeated a far larger Indian princely army so that dominance of a European nation in India was assured. After a hard fight, though, that nation would be Great Britain thanks to good and effective support of its government compared to the French disinterest in overseas matters by the late 1750s. Pondicherry fell in 1761 as Senegal in Africa had three years earlier. The Compagnie des Indes, however, went on for another decade until it closed its books in 1770.

The monopoly companies had quite a variety of troops posted in many places. The port of Lorient in France was, from the later seventeenth century, the European troops' depot and training centre. Some served as marines on the company ships, others in a multitude of forts and loges on three continents. Their recruitment, and command are described. In India, their tactical role multiplied and led to having units of gunners, horse grenadiers, dragoons, hussars, grenadiers, all with very distinct uniforms. There were sepoy, topas and caffre units as well as auxiliary allied princely armies in India, and trained auxiliary soldiers in Africa. The few royal army soldiers sent to India in the late 1750s are also considered. All Indian, African and metropolitan army troops are covered and described in this fully illustrated study.

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Personal logo Silurian Supporting Member of TMP13 Oct 2023 2:21 p.m. PST

Very excited about this!
Fascinating subject by a very knowledgable author. Thanks for bring it to my attention.

epturner13 Oct 2023 3:28 p.m. PST

That is fantastic news!

I'm also excited.

Eric

Duc de Brouilly13 Oct 2023 3:29 p.m. PST

Really looking forward to this!
All we need now is a new range of figures, sepoys and the like.

Extrabio1947 Supporting Member of TMP13 Oct 2023 4:15 p.m. PST

There was (is?) a manufacturer of SYW Sepoys called Indus Miniatures. The range included British and French Sepoys, East India Company Sepoys, artillery, etc. They are exquisite miniatures. If they are still available, I highly recommend them.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP13 Oct 2023 7:45 p.m. PST

That looks like fun.

Duc de Brouilly14 Oct 2023 1:17 a.m. PST

Thanks Extrabio. I've actually got some of those figures and you're right, they are very nice figures indeed bar one fact: they seem to be carrying their muskets on the wrong shoulder, i.e, they carry them on the right shoulder instead of the left; only an NCO would carry a musket on the right shoulder? I know it seems like a small detail but I can't reconcile myself to it I'm afraid.

jurgenation Supporting Member of TMP16 Oct 2023 9:45 a.m. PST

Crann Tara also makes Sepoys and Eureka makes Mysore,Bengali infantry and Rajput Cavalry.If you can find Old London Warroom,they used to make D'Busseys Corp.

Lilian08 Feb 2024 8:51 a.m. PST

published!




Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP13 Sep 2024 12:37 p.m. PST

Just picked up a copy of this book, it's fantastic!

Very sad hearing that Chartrand recently passed away, such a loss.

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