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Personal logo Sgt Slag Supporting Member of TMP08 Oct 2023 7:06 p.m. PST

This is likely made by the same company. It looks a great deal like Draco-Lich 1.0. This 'decoration' is between 24-30 inches long! In true 1/72 scale, where one inch equals 6 feet, this model is 144 scale feet to 180 scale feet long! For 2e AD&D, this is in the ballpark for an Ancient Great Wyrm!

It will require that the screw holes be filled in, with White E6000 Glue, or some other filler (spackle?). Once the holes are filled in, the model can be washed, preferably with a dark brown paint, or urethane stain. The wings can be covered with white paper, stained, or painted, an appropriate color. If you use just the brown wash, you can then press this monstrous model into service as a Draco-Lich of any type needed (the wings are faded, after centuries of un-life). The tail of this model, is bendable, and posable.

Where can you find this Draco-Lich? Jo-Ann Fabrics stores! If you are lucky, you might find it on sale, or you may find a coupon to reduce the price.

The price tag shows that they realize they have a marketable 'decoration', which likely will attract an audience beyond just Halloween fans! This TMP link clocks in at $39.99 USD! Looking at fantasy model figures, this is still a sweetheart model! This thing is HUGE!

The wings are hinged, like Draco-Lich 2.0, however their range of motion is more limited. This is a massive beast! The jaws are hinged. The model is entirely bone, except for the ears, behind the eye sockets. I would recommend painting these to model leathery, mummified skin.

My Draco-Lich 2.0 is still a work-in-progress. I now have two such Drago-Lich models in my collection. I can't justify a third model, and with its humongous size, it would be a stretch to incorporate it into my 2e AD&D RPG games, as well as my 2e BattleSystem games. It is rare to find such a large dragon model, which accurately demonstrates the 2e Dragon sizes of an Ancient Great Wyrm!

I still hope to run a Council of Wyrms RPG, with PC Dragons. This is really the only way that I could justify getting this model. If you have a desire for a huge Draco-Lich model, this is the largest I've found yet. To be honest, anything bigger would be too big for the 25mm-32mm figure scale for such a model. Cheers!

Personal logo Sgt Slag Supporting Member of TMP10 Oct 2023 10:23 a.m. PST

I did an Internet search on, "skeleton dragon," to see just what I could find. I was surprised at just how many exist, currently, on the market! They have a wide price range, and quality for gamers, varies, as well.

Here are some links to what I found:

1. 36" Dragon Skeleton Halloween Decoration, $62.98 USD, from Oriental Trading. Large, but the details are seriously lacking for its size.

2. Crazy Bonez Large Skeleton Dragon (Draco-Lich #1), $24.99 USD, on Amazon. It is ‎24" W x 16" L x 10" T. It is available in a few color schemes, beside bond: gold, and Oil Slick (multi-color black), but these are also slightly smaller in size.

3. 2+ foot Dragon Skeleton, $95.99 USD, on TMP link This thing lacks detail, but it is h-u-g-e, standing 27.2" T! Too big, really, even for an Ancient Great Wyrm, in 2e AD&D rules.

4. Ashland 13"; Dragon Skeleton (Draco-Lich 2.0), $16.78 USD, on Amazon; also available at Michaels. It is 11.81" L x 13.2" W x 5.31" T.

5. Gothic Dragon Skeleton Statue, $46.90 USD, on Amazon. It is 5" x 7.5" x 7", with some remnants of skin stretched between its wing ribs; its neck also appears to be covered in flesh, as it is much more than neck vertebrae; the skull also appears to have flesh covering most of it. This one could be painted up in any desired color, with plenty of flesh still attached to it, in the front, at least.

6. Crazy Bonez Light Up Skeleton Gargoyle, $14.99 USD, on Amazon. It is 7 x 10 x 9.5 inches, with blue LED eyes that light up.

7. Animated Majestic Dragon Skeleton, $59.99 USD, on Halloween Costumes. It is 36" L by 10" W by 27" T. Activated by sound: red eyes flash, jaw moves up/down; poseable.

8. Dragon Skeleton, 7.5", $6.99 USD, at At Home. This is 4.0" L x 7.5" H x 7.5" W. It's jaw is fixed, not moveable; it has molded flesh covering each wing, but it is otherwise just bone.

9. Halloween Dragon Skeleton, $129.99 USD, at Wal-Mart. Size: 49" long from snout to tail tip and 36" high from wing tip to foot. Low in detail, big. Very big.


Let's compare all of these to a legitimate, Pathfinder gaming miniature: Pathfinder Battles Deep Cuts – Gargantuan Skeletal Dragon, $32.00 USD, on Amazon.

If you read the customer reviews of the Pathfinder Draco-Lich model, you will see that many complain about it being too brittle! Many have had it break, requiring a glue job, to repair. Note that the non-gaming figures listed above, are all made of plastic. The three I have looked at, and handled, were all made of some durable plastic -- breaking them would require some effort! Dropping them three feet, onto a concrete floor, is not likely to break them! Also, I find the sculpting of the plastic Halloween decorations to be better, in many cases than the Pathfinder gaming model.

Prices are all over the map! Here is a Google Search for Skeleton Dragon, showing gaming miniatures, as well as many examples, posted above, with really different prices being offered! It pays to shop around. Cheers!

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