"Hamas vs Israel... again" Topic

I assume you both heard about the bus explosions in Israel yesterday?

Also they did not send the woman's dead body.

Yes, and she was a Gazan female, not the mother of the 2 Israel children who were murdered. As the coffins of these Israeli dead were paraded thru town. The Gazans, not just Hamas cheered, jeered, dance etc. at these dead bodies. The same way they did when Israeli females and female soldiers that were not killed. Were paraded[naked?] thru the streets after 7 Oct.

The Gazans reviled in Israeli deaths. And they had to know many Gazans were going die when the IDF strikes back.

And yes many died on both sides. But for a lasting peace to come about many more especially Gazans/Hamas will have to die.

The Israelis confirmed that both young boys had been strangled to death and an attempt to cover it up was made.

No surprise of course. The crimes committed by Hamas and other terrorist on 07 Oct, before & since has made it clear. They are crazed fanatics, etc. In a report today the body of the two children's dead mother is being returned. But I'm sure Hamas is not very good at anything but murder, etc.

It has to be obvious, the IDF will continue to get back as many of the hostage dead or alive as they can. However, the IDF and others in the world know. The IDF will have to eliminate Hamas, the other moslem terrorists there and their supporters. This can't continue. It has been going on for decades. Most of the other Arabs in the area saw endless wars will not get them their goals.

Even e.g. Egypt, Jordan and other moslem nations don't want to take in the Gazans. They have been way too radicalized, like ISIS. Nothing more can be done. But Hamas, other terrorists there and their supporters, most will have to be eliminated. To no longer be a threat to Israel or anyone else. Gaza can't ever be a Hamas, etc. enclave.

Yes the reality of this is horrible. But how long will this conflict go on ? The Israelis are not going anywhere. No matter how hard those in the region have tried. Hamas, etc. have not evolved, again, like ISIS. Blinded by hatred fueled and religious fanatism.

Hamas has sealed their fate and those that support them in Gaza. As well as those Gazans who don't want anything to do with Hamas, etc. But as we see, many denizens of Gaza cheer and support the wanton slaughter of Jews, etc. So who are the innocents ? How can one tell ?

Along with this inevitable bad situation. Iran's theocratic leaders and their supporters have to be dealt with severely. Or this all will happen again. And worse yet they will get deployable nuke WMDs. Everybody knows who their first target(s) will be.

Plus just Iran having nukes could trigger a nuclear arms race in the region. That is the worst thing that can occur. In a region that has religious, tribal, and ethnic hatreds that go back for a very, very long time. As well as many in the region believe if they die killing infidels, they go to paradise. That can be a strong motivator …

Appears to me and others the options are clear. And many, many more will die. As long as fanatical beliefs dominate so many living there …

Legion, it's not just Hamas, these kind of things are popping up all over. Germany just yesterday.

Subject: Syrian Arrested After Stabbing Near Berlin Holocaust Memorial

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Most get almost no press coverage. Had you seen this from yesterday?

Subject: 70 Christians Beheaded in Church: What We Know – Newsweek

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How about this one?

Subject: Migrant who laughed as he stabbed 14-year-old boy to death in Austrian knife rampage 'had applied for asylum so he could avoid being drafted into Syrian military' | Daily Mail Online

We know they are happening in the US as well.

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Legion and this afternoon

Subject: Rampaging knifeman kills one and leaves police officers seriously injured in France horror – as Macron says there is 'no doubt' it was terrorism | Daily Mail Online


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Yes, as I have mentioned in other posts. It is not just Hamas, islamic Jihad, Al Laxsa, in Gaza. They don't go much farther. But the GWoT continues. We can't turn our backs on these terrorists.

How many islamic terrorists has crossed into the US with the Biden/Dem open border policies ? CBP, ICE, LEOs etc. have caught hundreds of them. Some just walked into the US, caught & released now roaming free. Some of them we have no idea who they are, where they are and what are they here for.

We still end up killing some ISIS and AQ terrorist to this day. And as I have said many times before. There are thousands of ISIS males, females and children in Iraq and Syria in camps being guarded by the Kurds, etc. on the US payroll.

Yes, as I have mentioned in other posts. It is not just Hamas, islamic Jihad, Al Laxsa, in Gaza. They don't go much farther. But the GWoT continues. We can't turn our backs on these terrorists.

How many islamic terrorists has crossed into the US with the Biden/Dem open border policies ? CBP, ICE, LEOs etc. have caught hundreds of them. Some just walked into the US, caught & released now roaming free. Some of them we have no idea who they are, where they are and what are they here for.

We still end up killing some ISIS and AQ terrorist to this day. And as I have said many times before. There are thousands of ISIS males, females and children in Iraq and Syria in camps being guarded by the Kurds, etc. on the US payroll.

The "victims" are at it again

Subject: Breaking911 on X: "HORROR FOOTAGE: Palestinian TERRORIST mows down Israelis standing at a bus stop. 10 injured some critically. The terrorist was thankfully shot dead. t.co/KctBXjpCDU / X


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Move the UN to Gaza

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Armand

Hamas still is dragging its feet. The IDF is going to have cleanse Hamas from the region. Which based on Hamas's MO will include many more dead Gazan "non-combatants". Hamas cannot remain in any sort of position of power to threaten Israel ever again.

Iran's support of Hamas, etc. has to be dealt with. Along with their threat of getting deployable nukes …

I thought if Hamas did not return all the hostages by a certain date all hell was going to break loose.
That date has way pasted.

Grattan on the 15th Trump gave Israel the option of response

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Also according to Times of Israel on the web, the US is having peace talks with Hamas

This just out

Subject: Trump demands that Hamas release hostages in Truth Social post


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"The Hamas terror group on Thursday dismissed President Donald Trump's latest threat and refused to release more Israeli hostages without a permanent ceasefire deal in the Gaza Strip."

"Trump added that he is "sending Israel everything it needs to finish the job," and that "not a single Hamas member will be safe if you don't do as I say.

"Also, to the People of Gaza: A beautiful Future awaits, but not if you hold Hostages," the president wrote. "If you do, you are DEAD! Make a SMART decision. RELEASE THE HOSTAGES NOW, OR THERE WILL BE HELL TO PAY LATER!"
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So he's letting Israel do it.
The way I read this, unless those who currently do not identify as Hamas, better do something, or they will be treated as such?

You influence Hamas by destroying the refineries in Iran. Should have been done in October 2023.

A small start. But a start.

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That date has way pasted.

Has it ?

The entire cease fire was to get as many hostages as possible back dead or alive. The IDF will have to go in and continue the "cleansing" of Gaza. Trump was trying to get the local islamic Arab nations to do something to help the situation. No joy …. at least not yet.

No matter what happens to the Gazans and Gaza in the end no other Arab muslim nations will make the same errors that has been made in 4+ Wars for decades. Iran is not Arab but Persian, they still think they can take on the Jews, Americans and the other Arab nations. Their leadership is living on borrowed time.

A small start. But a start.

Yes but like cleaning up the Biden open border debacle, more of these types will be deported … or hopefully sent to Gitmo …

Saw a report today, a message that the POTUS posted on X to Hamas … The POTUS did not mince words. Clearly if the IDF goes Blitzkrieg on Hamas … And AFAIK the will. Hamas and many Gazans will die … period …

Seems this may be the only option available in the end …

@Legion it does read like he is giving Israel freedom to do as they please.

The Hamas fighters are in their tunnels now, preparing for their virgins after martyrdom. 😉

Subject: (((hellvis))) on X: #Hamas t.co/SexIZBcr2a / X


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Very good video found online … a little long … but she is right on target. About the moslems vs. the West and the Jews. I don't think many understand the "truth" … As I have said before, and as she points out … the problems generated
by moslems are of their own doing. And many like and approve of this agenda …

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After watching this I posted on Facebook –

She is exactly right. Gaza and the West Bank was occupied after the '67 War. They offered to give it back, but the Egyptians didn't want it. She is historically accurate, and she lived it. She saw the lies, propaganda falsehoods, etc. of many of the islamic religious leaders, etc..

Many have asked why the other Arab nation, many very rich with oil profits, don't they take care of the group of people known as "Palestinians". Many don't know Gaza was part of Egypt. As well as the underlining hatred of many moslems to the West, the Jews, and everyone who is not a follower of islam. Many are told/taught as a child to hate the infidel. Which is everyone that is not moslem.

Even Trump recntly tried to push some of the other Arab nations to take responsibility of the Palestinians. Again as she points out. Many of the islamic leaders and in turn their people grew up hating everyone who is not moslem. This partly explains the horrendous atrocities of what happened on 7 Oct. to the Jews. But also as she points out many molsems still hate the West, the Jews, etc. Regardless of what many say otherwise…

Legion it does read like he is giving Israel freedom to do as they please.

Yes that is what I thought. Hamas rejects any real possibility of peace. This has gone on much too long. Going decades back. Again the only option is to eliminate Hamas, the other moslem terrorists there and their supporters.

Hamas watches the news. And sees many in US schools, etc. support their jihad. So they still think they have a chance to get what they want. However, the new POTUS is taking actions to stop all this. E.g. no longer giving millions from some schools, deporting foreign students, expelling others etc., etc. Now if only the POTUS could do something about these groups and people like Soros. As well as cutting off outside funding from some moslem nations, China, etc.

This is a sign of how weak the US has become when not having strong leadership. Who puts America first …

Legion +1

Report today says the slaughter and persecutions of Christians is going on in Syria, the Congo, Nigeria, etc. By islamic fanatics … The media never covers this genocide. Only that the IDF is killing islamic terrorists and their supporters …. Hmmmm ?

Can the news media be anymore hypocritical, dishonest, biased, etc., etc. ?

Can many elected and appointed officials be more worthless ?

Agree Legion. I was going to post the Syrian killing of Christians yesterday, but didn't. I've posted all the rest of them out here already. As I've said, this has not stopped since the 600's. Just a matter of where it breaks out.

Subject: Israel Draws Up New War Plans to Pressure Hamas – WSJ


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OVI +1

Are the muslims now controlling Spain again??

Subject: Dr. Maalouf ‏ on X: "In Spain, a restaurateur was threatened for staying open during the day during Ramadan. So not only did he remain open, but he also put ham on all the tables as a big middle finger! t.co/3sXtZNvAel / X


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Yeah

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Subject: ICE arrests Palestinian activist who helped lead Columbia University protests : NPR


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More of getting rid of activist foreign and domestic seems to be a real good idea. Again – Gitmo …

I agree Legion. In the Congo a few days ago, Muslims terrorists forced 40 Christians into a church where they tied them up and then cut off their heads. Didn't hear a peep from the vast majority of the media. Now, do you think that would be true if Christians had done that to Muslims?

As for the arrest of the Palestinian activist. Kick him out. He is here as a guest to this country. I would never go to a foreign country and then protest their government or the actions of that country.

Well a liberal judge has stopped him being sent for now. 😞

So where's this freedom of speech that America is so famous for ? Doesn't it apply to foreigners ? Not even those with American wives ?

Dagwood go to the web and do some research on this man, has nothing to do with free speech.

But you want to talk about freedom of speech?

Why don't you go to a local abortion clinic in England and try silently praying within so many feet of the door. 🙂

You might get rich.

"In August 2024, Isabel Vaughan-Spruce, a co-director of March for Life UK, who had been praying silently outside an abortion clinic in Birmingham, was arrested and later received a £13,000.00 GBP payout after the charges were dropped. She said she had been present to offer peaceful support to women facing crisis pregnancies. "

And Just a few others:

Subject: Lawmakers Pix of Muslims Without Hijabs Should Be Made a Crime

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Subject: British Blasphemy? UK Government Moves Toward New Definition of "Islamophobia" for Speech Regulation – JONATHAN TURLEY

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Subject: Dries Van Langenhove on X: "I was just interrogated for a criminal investigation into a meme that was posted 4 years ago, and if you think that's crazy, in two days I must appear in the Court of Appeals and face years in jail for another case about memes that were posted in a private chat 8 years ago. t.co/aXgOpsQ4tY / X

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Subject: UK Threatens to Extradite Overseas Social Media Users Who Criticize Mass Migration, Two-Tier Policing.

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Gratten +1

OVI +1

So where's this freedom of speech that America is so famous for ? Doesn't it apply to foreigners ? Not even those with American wives ?

Well the status of Green Card Holders gives them some rights. But they are not American citizens. Freedom of speech does not include hate speech, inciting a riot, etc. Threating people who you don't like or disagree with.

Freedom of speech and freedom of assembly does not include what were saw in the summer of 2020. Nor what we have seen with the useful dupes rioting, attacking people mostly Jews, occupying buildings, etc. etc., in support of islamic terrorists and their supporters. Lauding the barbaric Oct 7 massacre. Calling the Jews occupiers when Jew have been in that region for thousands of years. Moslems did show up for 100s of years later.

Yes a OVI pointed … and I have been listening to the news all day. Some very smart, learned lawyers and Gov't officials, etc. explained the legality and illegality of the current Pro-islamic anti-Semitic rioting …

What if these were anti-Black riots ? Or anti-Asian riots ? I'm pretty sure those rioters wouldn't get away anything near what is going on now.

You got that right Legion.

What if some foreign student here in the Us had come out against Black Lives Matter? Had led a protest against the riots that BLM led?

Yes, for some reason it is ok on some campuses to be an anti semite and harass the Jewish students, prevent them going to classes or even make them hide in fear. Oh…., and to support terrorists.

Always remember the Jews are oppressors and the Muslims the oppressed. At least in their minds.

Very interesting.

"What Sachs found was a well-orchestrated campaign to delegitimize the Jewish state and stigmatize its supporters abroad.

In one of the film's most shocking revelations, senior "leaders of Hamas in America" are heard strategizing on how to infiltrate U.S. "media outlets, universities, and research centers" and coordinate their language to make Hamas most palatable to an American progressive audience.

"The Americans… we must address them from a position of rights and justice, and at the same time choose our words well," an unidentified voice says in the recording."

And then ….

"Organizations like the United Nations, Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International have accused Israel of committing "apartheid" and "genocide" while downplaying or staying silent on Hamas atrocities on Oct. 7, according to Sachs. She said that the silence from these groups drove her to make this film."

And then she says:

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"This is much bigger than the Jewish community. This is much bigger than the state of Israel. This is about all of us here in America. This is about the West. This is truly about Islamic jihadism, extremism versus democracy. So, that's what the stakes are right now," she added."

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Always remember the Jews are oppressors and the Muslims the oppressed. At least in their minds.

Yes that seems to be similar to the paradigm the woke progressives, DEI, CRT, far left Dems, etc. crowd are pushing.
I.e. Whites are oppressors and everyone is oppressed. Just like the same thing they push about toxic masculinity. But you have to have some in the clan, herd, etc. to be the Alphas and defenders, i.e. warriors …

May his assigned virgins in paradise, all be deflowered goats. 🙏

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Another one bits the dust … Again, the GWoT continues. Seems they just don't get it. We ain't going to stop killing you. As long were or are a threat to Western civilization.

That Hamas operative that the US is deporting, that dogma about ending Western Civilization … Well that is part of what we see he believes as well as many other molsems in the world do. However, the question is how many ? I don't think we'll ever know for sure ?

So, until things change in the islamic world. The West has no choice but to kill any known militant islamic radical terrorists/jihadis and their supporters. Whenever the opportunity presents itself.

E.g. Hamas has lost … but it is not destroyed … The way things are going on in Gaza. Sooner than later, the IDF will have to go in and finish it.

The barbaric 7 Oct attack may have been considered a tactical victory at best. Unless you are Hamas or other terrorists or supporters.

However, it will end up being a total major defeat for them. Costing Hamas and other terrorists plus their supporters and any non-combatants that they use for cover will again die. In continuing large numbers.

No matter how many "useful dupes" in the schools and streets of the USA plus Congress along with groups like the ACLU claim to take the moral high ground, etc. About the Hamas "freedom fighters' " gallant struggle against the "White Jewish Zionists" and the White Supremacists American oppressors. Gaza will never be the same … and history would record the massive amounts of deaths. Caused by not only Hamas, etc. but their supporters e.g. Iran, Qatar, etc.

I assume you heard we hit the Houthis today. Hopefully they too will suffer the shortages of virgins in paradise. Even goats and camels are in short supply in paradise. I guess maybe their Chickens will have to come home to roost. 😉

Yep payback it a mother …

I'm sure more to come.

Good shoot'n boys !!!

Enjoy

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Subject: Ariel Oseran أريئل أوسيران on X: "BREAKING: Urgent security consultations took place at the top security and political levels in Israel due to "a recent unusual event that may indicate a Hamas attempt to prepare for a ground invasion into Israel." The censorship approved to publicize the information." / X


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First the Houthis, Now Hamas. Can Iran be next?

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Iran may end up being hit if not next … but eventually …

And as long as Hamas still thinks they can "win". And somehow hopes someone will come to their aid, etc., etc. They will continue to try to "push the Jews into the sea", etc. Or at least regain Gaza.

Meanwhile with them not caring about their non-combatant losses. And use those for propaganda, etc. value. More and more will die. Gaza will continue to be becoming a moonscape.

U.S. Strike in Iraq Eliminates Top Islamic State Leader (Video)

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Armand

More good shoot'n boys ! Keep it up !