"Hamas vs Israel... again" Topic

Subject: Emanuel (Mannie) Fabian on X: "The IDF says it eliminated a senior Hezbollah commander, Hassan Hussein Salami, in an airstrike in southern Lebanon earlier today. Salami, whose rank is equivalent of a brigade commander, was targeted while driving in the southern Lebanon village of Majadel. The IDF says Salami… t.co/sIWBoQCWXt / X


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Well killing off terrorist leaders is always a good thing. If they are replaced, we will kill them too. It's not rocket science.

Sounds nice Legion but in the HQ tent in Khandhar were the photo's of all the key players that were on the hit list. Every few days/a week one or more of those photo's changed. That never ended, not for seven years I was in and out of that dump. Sorry, it did end. We packed up and came home and let the vermin win.

No western government has the will to keep it going for a very long time which is what it would have taken. Like the Taliban used to say… 'you have the fancy watches, but we have the time'.

You were there … so I have to bow to your experience. 👍👍 And thank you for that. But from my old "Grunt" type thinking. Keep killing them off every time they are replaced makes sense to me. However, we'd still be killing them off to this day.

As we see in Syria & Iraq. The US still has troops there killing ISIS leaders, etc. As we know in A'stan after NATO left, they once again were left to their 15th Century thinking. As are the remnants of ISIS.

"You can't free a fish from water." …

And yes, like any insurgency, all the locals have to wait the "invaders" out. They don't have to go anywhere. It's their backyard. And sooner or later they will get tired of spending/wasting blood & treasure and go home. E.g. as the Russians did and left A'stan as well in SE Asia, the French then the US did …

Subject: UN Report Confirms: Hamas Committed Rape Against Israelis, Hostages

Is anyone surprised?


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My experience was similar in law enforcement Legion. You get one, another one always fills the vacuum. We are never short of work. It just goes on, and you just go on.

Gunny much thanks for your service.

Is anyone surprised?

Only those that blindly follow the Hamas propaganda, etc. would be surprised. They would readily deny it, etc. … The only way to get "justice" is to continue killing Hamas, etc.

As the election nears and the POTUS poll numbers decline and as his supporters in the colleges and Islamic communities protest his current support of Israel, it looks like the administrations support of Israel, continues to crumble.

Subject: U.S. Pushes For Initial Gaza Ceasefire Without Return Of Hostages – Report – I24NEWS


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The leadership deficit in DC continues … I.e. the A'stan debacle was the first domino … and that was just start …

One could also say the open border policy was the first domino, with many more to follow.

So now the Biden Admin wants to bypass Israeli-Gaza security and build a PORT and give aid directly to Hamas…and risk US lives to do it.

Biden to announce US military-led mission to build port on Gaza coast to boost aid

President Biden will announce during his State of the Union address Thursday that he's directing the U.S. military to lead the construction of a port along the coast of Gaza on the Mediterranean Sea to boost the amount of aid getting to Palestinian civilians.

"We know the aid flowing into Gaza is nowhere near enough and nowhere near fast enough. The president will make clear again this evening that we all need to do more, and the United States is doing more," a senior administration official said on a call with reporters.

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wants to bypass Israeli-Gaza security and build a PORT and give aid directly to Hamas…and risk US lives to do it.

It is an election year … so they have to kiss a lot of to get votes. Regardless of how the USA will be affected. Many in Congress are not real leaders by activists with an agenda.

Sb you beat me. 😉

Yes let's have the taxpayers pay for a port for Hamas (yes I know, it's not supposed to be for them. But I think we know who will get the supplies).

Bread and circuses

Subject: Oscar celebrities accused of wearing 'symbol of bloodlust' originating from Palestinians 'lynching' 2 Israelis


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Seems that Israel is losing support from Chick's party quickly, as the election nears and many of their core supporters, support Hamas/Palestine over Isreal.

Subject: Chuck Schumer calls for new elections in Israel, criticizing Netanyahu's leadership


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The Biden Admin is now openly trying to topple PM Netanyahu's governing party from power. What will that do to the war on Hamas?

Well supposedly it has helped tighten support for Netanyahu. Obviously the party is getting more worried, as the days draw closer to November and polls are declining and the war is not popular with some of their core.

Israel much be supported by the US. As should the Ukraine. But that will happen based on the poles …

Yes, as November nears, election fears are affecting the administration's support of Israel.

Now the POTUS is being praised by Hamas for the change of attitude.

"Regarding the American administration, there is no doubt that there are clear changes in its policy towards Israel," Hamas senior official and spokesperson Ghazi Hamad told Newsweek, "and this is perhaps due to the stupid and foolish policy of the occupying state, which commits genocide, killing civilians, and
starvation."

"America has found that Israel is putting it in an awkward position before the world, and it cannot justify its retaliatory actions against civilians," he added. "America also feels that Israel is floundering and is not achieving any of the goals it has set for itself."

Errata: That should be Polls not Poles !!! DOH !!!!

"America also feels that Israel is floundering and is not achieving any of the goals it has set for itself."

But what does the IDF think ? AFAIK they are going to do what is takes to make Hamas less effective, i.e. Kill as many of them as they can.

Polls show that over 70% of Israelis agree with Schumer and want the elections moved up. They also have held Netanyahu responsible for the defensive lapses that allowed Oct 7 to be such a disaster by as much as 80%, as I recall. Another poll showed 55% think his actions are based on personal interests, only 33% think he acts based on what's good for the country. Plus his corruption trial has resumed, can't be a good thing. This from the JTA last week, for what it's worth to you guys.

In my opinion, this war should have been over by now, but I am not there and I am not an expert. It is proving to be a tough slog. And it also keeps Netanyahu in power. I have no idea if these things are related, but I thought the IDF would have ended this by now.

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this war should have been over by now, but I am not there and I am not an expert. It is proving to be a tough slog. And it also keeps Netanyahu in power. I have no idea if these things are related, but I thought the IDF would have ended this by now.

Well again, fighting insurgents in urban terrain is a very challenging task. The IDF is not and can't do "blitzkrieg" in this situation. They are being measured, deliberate, etc. That is the way MOUT is usually fought. Plus, the concern of CD is always present. Only compounded by Hamas not letting many of their civilians move out of the battle zone. The more of them that die by IDF hands the better it is for Hamas as the negative opinions grow of Israel.

And the political person you mentioned by name … well I won't mention what I really think … 'nuff said …

Yes, I know this is not easy, Legion. Maybe I put unfair expectations on the IDF. We may never know how much CD there is under the rubble. Does this damage to the infrastructure make it easier or harder for the IDF? I don't know. Hamas are deadly terrorists, ruthless urban warriors. They caused all of this.

Schumer was named and nicknamed above by 35th, I have no problem. He is not of much interest to me except for his deep connections in Israel and the feedback he is getting from there. I am hearing the same thing from a friend there with some expertise.

Maybe I put unfair expectations on the IDF. We may never know how much CD there is under the rubble.

The rubble is in fact considered CD, as well as the people. We probably will never know … anything Hamas or even the UN says is suspect.

Does this damage to the infrastructure make it easier or harder for the IDF?

The ruined structures may have been known or likely enemy locations. Firing on those are part of battlefield prep. Killing and suppressing the enemy.

The rubble can still be used to hide, etc. by the enemy. E.g. Monte Cassino WWII Italy. But that works both ways. Plus, the IDF has D9 Dozers supported by MBTs and HAPCs to clear any rubble or even mines, IEDs, etc. E.g. the rubble at Caen actually slowed up the advance out of Normandy somewhat, until it could be cleared by CEs, etc. But that was WWII. Not today … the tech is much better to do this job.

Hamas are deadly terrorists, ruthless urban warriors. They caused all of this.

Yes, they don't care about their own people it appears. They are blinded by their jihad against the Jews. The IDF can be ruthless too … they know Hamas leaders and minions have to be "terminate with extreme prejudice" … But with this terrain and situation CD is inevitable no matter how you attempt to avoid it.

I will refrain from commenting on that individual you mentioned. Whose is in our Gov't. Like many in the swamp he is part of the problem …

I won't comment

Subject: US leaders promise security for Gaza dock mission amid threat concerns


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I did not mean to Schumerize anyone! Not a fan.But these is one area where he has a lot of contacts in Israel to draw on regarding the mood there about Netanyahu.

Setting him aside, my friend is a retired consultant to the ICC and is closely related to its modern establishment. Also NATO, the UN, ME military staff and field personnel, many others. He is particularly expert in matters related to international aggression and war crimes against civilian populations. And Israel. His father was a US prosecutor at Nuremberg. As American Jews they have been long time adamant supporters of Israel. Him, I believe.

My no comment, was related to my last link. I am not a fan at all of what they are going to do.

As far as Chuckie, best I don't say. 😉

The US Army putting in that dock in Gaza. May help with the starving Palestinians, along with the continued supply drops. But no matter what there has to be security for that to happen. If US boots end up on the ground beyond those constructing the dock. And again, the CEs have to have security to construct the dock.

If any US troops get attacked, KIA'd, WIA'd, etc. Besides being very sad and unfortunate, it will look like more negatives for the current admin. And they like everyone knows … it is an election year.

You friend Tort with those credentials would be beyond a reliable source.

Ah,I get it 35th. I think the dock is a crazy idea, trouble waiting to happen. Looks like a possible reverse Dunkirk.

Yes, Legion, thanks. He is my closest lifelong friend, and I knew his dad also. He uncovered the direct evidence against the SS personnel running the camps and the eastern front death squads and led their prosecution. Army D-Day vet, fought across Europe till the end when they discovered he had a law degree. A very tough customer in many ways.

I think the dock is a crazy idea, trouble waiting to happen. Looks like a possible reverse Dunkirk.

The US has to do something as it is an election year … Plus we always like to demonstrate our "humanity". It's good for votes if nothing else. Plus, we have air and naval superiority … they didn't have that at Dunkirk …

A very tough customer in many ways.

He sounds like he knows the real deal … Many don't …

Re: air and naval superiority, I agree, we have it, but…

I was thinking about those Quassam rockets Hamas builds and their drones, which I think have a 20 mile range flying right down of the deck. Would these be a factor?

Yes it could be a factor … Unless the IDF takes them all out …

May his 72 virgins, all be ugly pigs. 🐷

Subject: Senior Iranian Guard Corps official killed in alleged Israeli strike in Damascus – report | The Times of Israel


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May his 72 virgins, all be ugly pigs. 🐷

….and male…..

Senior Iranian Guard Corps official killed in alleged Israeli strike in Damascus

The IAF kicking and taking names… again. I'm sure Iran, Syria, etc. are very upset. If so … Good …

Reports are they are running out of virgins … guess they only get 10 ?

"Reports are they are running out of virgins … guess they only get 10 ?"

I think they are retreading them. They recycle everything these days. 😉

Senior Iranian Guard Corps official killed in alleged Israeli strike in Damascus

What's that saying again? Oh yeah, "Doing the jobs that Americans won't do…"

Well they are going to have to do something. More islamic terrorists, jihadis etc. get killed every day … The IDF is doing its job …

Iran is threating retaliation against Israel and the US for the strike that wasted 7 of their IRGC in Damascus. If the reports are accurate. Including their new Spec Ops GEN. Who replaced Suleimani after the US droned him and some of his cohorts in Iraq. A few years back. Iran is blaming the US as usual.

The US better get its Military, LEOs, FBI, CIA, etc. combat ready. With the open borders who knows how many IRGC, AQ, ISIS, jihadis, terrorists, etc. have flooded across our South Border ? More Americans may die with this massive failure to secure the Borders by US leaders.

"What's that saying again? Oh yeah, "Doing the jobs that Americans won't do…"

But, But … we apologized today.🥹

"The U.S. told Iran that it "had no involvement" or advanced knowledge of an Israeli strike on a diplomatic compound in Syria that killed a senior Iranian general, according to a U.S. official."

Isn't that enough? Won't they let us alone? 😧

Yeah Right! 😉

We are now up to at least 170 attacks on our troops by Iranian proxies. (No they have not stopped, just not being covered). What you don't hear, does not happen, right? I think this may be a group shot of those responsible for getting that information to us (🙈🙉🙊).

I strongly doubt many illegal aliens can do the jobs our military does. Even if someone waves a magic wand and they all become US citizens. I'd be willing say most of them don't want to become Americans. They just want to take the freebies commit crimes, etc.

@Legion4 -- but just think of how better off America will be with an Army comprised of large numbers of people more beholden to political patrons who grant and remove social welfare services to their families based on personal or party loyalty, as opposed to loyalty to the US Constitution, the Nation and the People?

@SB You mean they might be aiming for their own "Pretorian Guard"? You are saying that is why a judge ruled illegal aliens can own firearms? Why they want to disarm our own citizens? That, that is why citizenship for service in the armed forces has been proposed by some congressmen? That may be why in many cases, illegals are getting more freebies than the families of our own citizens serving in the military currently? Creating dependency and gratitude?

Subject: Citizen Free Press on X: "Illegal Aliens receive 7x times more cash benefits than military families. t.co/QFQoCgAN3p / X

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That is the reason the border is an open sieve? Why so many lawmakers want to fast track legalization?

NO! I'm sure you are wrong.

"Say it ain't so, Joe, please
Say it ain't so
That's not what I wanna hear, Joe
And I got a right to know

Say it ain't so, Joe, please
Say it ain't so
I'm sure they telling us lies, Joe
Please tell us it ain't so"

Okay! It ain't so.

No credible source of information proves any of this at this time. It might be all true, or none of its true. The flood of illegals being undocumented means we don't know anything about most of them, unfortunately. This is the part that freaks me out.

And the election means nothing will be done about it in order to keep the flames going. There is no ethical challenge politicians cannot overcome. We don't seem to have many law-making lawmakers in the Congress.

I may believe radical law-breakers are controlling all of this for their own political gain. But there is no real way to know anymore.

I may believe radical law-breakers are controlling all of this for their own political gain. But there is no real way to know anymore.

Of course there is:

1. Biden Admin dismantles border security
2. Biden Admin helps fund mass illegal migrant flows through USAID and UN funding
3. Biden Admin forces border States to leave the border unsecure
4. Biden Admin issues an EO ordering the Census Bureau to count all people in a State for Congressional Apportionment (how many Seats in Congress), including illegal Aliens, that would give Blue states and Blue heave states up to 20+ more seats in the House
5. Biden Admin conducting secretive mass shipment of illegal aliens from the Border to interior States and cities en masse
6. Biden Admin constant efforts to fast track illegal aliens for citizenship
7. Democrat Mayors and Governors are doling out BILLIONS of $$ to illegals, displacing veterans and local homeless populations, providing free cash, free housing in hotels and motels, job preferences, legal preferences, etc.

SB, I think you forgot one:

"Joe Biden's administration has admitted transporting migrants on secret flights into the U.S. and lawyers for its immigration agencies claim revealing the locations could create national security 'vulnerabilities'.

Customs and Border Protection has refused to disclose crucial information about a program last year arranging flights for thousands of undocumented immigrants from foreign airports directly to U.S. cities.

It means that while record numbers of migrants were flowing over the southern border last year, the Biden White House was also directly transporting them into the country.

Use of a cell phone app has allowed for the near undetected arrival by air of 320,000 aliens with no legal rights to enter the United States."

Not sure why it was necessary to bring in more, one would think the roughly 10 million crossing our border since 2020, would be more than enough.

Ooops…sorry we took out your backdoor diplomat team… I don't think these people were there to cook soup for Palestinian refugees, it smells really off. Some kind of backdoor deal was being worked and the Israeli's stopped it.

US calls for Israel to investigate deaths of World Central Kitchen aid workers
The Biden administration, alongside other allies of Israel, called on Israel to conduct a public and swift investigation into the death of aid workers in Gaza.

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Such an odd incident. The "aid" workers were driving at night in armored cars with a local Hamas guide, ostensibly after unloading aid, and were driving into a war zone to make food???

Who were they and why were they there?

1. Saifeddin Issam Ayab Abutaha – Hamas local contact and driver

2. Lalzawmi Zomi Frankcom, naturalized Pakistani diplomat from Australia -- I'll call her the Negotiator

3. Damian Soból, Poland with a background in wheeling and dealing – I'll call him the Fixer

4. Next we have x4 military combat vets playing Security – Jacob Flickinger, John Chapman, James Henderson, James Kirby

So it's a plot? Run by a mastermind, who is also not functioning's due to age?Its the handlers? Who is running this? Credible proof?

Lots of right wing media sources,much of it sounds canned without including context from the other side, including the greatest displacement of people around the world in modern history. Fair and balanced. Or is that not really a thing. Anyway, proof and propaganda have a long history.

I think it's possible that it's a plot, but I think there are plenty of possible plots on the right as well. Who knows?

Dunno, Tort -- but what the hell is a "food aid" team doing driving at NIGHT in a WAR ZONE in ARMORED CARS with a local Hamas contact and FOUR private security?!?

This is all MY speculation, not "Lots of right wing media sources," because it's damn odd.

SBminisguy- I know that Frankcom definitely has at least some ties to humanitarian work. A friend of mine worked with her in the Caribbean after a natural disaster

🤔 All this humanitarian aid for the "Palestinians". Curious, how many Muslim nations sent humanitarian aid to Israel after 10/7?

I don't remember pro-Israeli protests worldwide, especially on college campuses after the Hamas 10/7 massacre.

Did these chefs come to Israel to make food on 10/8?

SB. I just have the feeling that there is a plot on both sides to keep the border mess going. Paranoia strikes deep, however. I am tired of media warfare. I was referring to the Border media coverage, not the Central World Kitchen strike in Gaza, which seems pretty clear.

It's hard to get around the long record of competent aid and integrity of Andres. If he says they coordinated with IDF, I believe him. But mistakes get made and CD happens. The IDF ROE in Gaza seem fairly loose, given the tactics of Hamas. I would not want to be fighting this war there and dealing with this.