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27 Sep 2023 11:51 a.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "1,1200 scale Dutch warships, Anglo Dutch wars." to "1:1200 scale Dutch warships, Anglo Dutch wars."

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Sheepman196127 Sep 2023 4:35 a.m. PST

Just about keeping this project ticking over, these Langton ships aren't a thing you can rush even though I'm no where near good enough to match examples of some of the models put on show here and elsewhere, but they'll do for me.
Two Dutch ships to oppose the English ones done already, the Endracht and the Zeelandia.

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A couple more angles here: link

Cheers,
Dave.

Choctaw27 Sep 2023 7:14 a.m. PST

Beautiful!

DisasterWargamer Supporting Member of TMP27 Sep 2023 7:54 a.m. PST

Would happily take the fleet into action – Nicely done

Sheepman196127 Sep 2023 2:01 p.m. PST

Thanks fellas, love the Langton models but wondering how the Ark Royal Miniatures by the League of Augsberg lads compare in size and style?
Dave.

shadoe0127 Sep 2023 4:29 p.m. PST

@Sheepman1961, very nice. As for the Ark Royals vs Langton, there is a small difference but there's a lot of variation across ships of a given class in this era.

Here's a photo of one Langton (Wassenaar) among Ark Royals

And here's a photo of a couple of Ark Royals (1st and 3rd from the left) among Langtons.

Another view of mixed Ark Royals (2nd and 4th from left):

Sheepman196128 Sep 2023 8:18 a.m. PST

Many thanks shadoe01, how do you find they match up ease of assembly etc. Bloody nice models by the way.
Dave.

shadoe0128 Sep 2023 9:23 a.m. PST

Thanks, Sheepman1961, you are very kind.

As for ease of assembly, they are same-same i.e., equally challenging but with some differences. Notably the Ark Royals have the sails cast with the masts. The biggest difference that makes is for the rigging especially the running rigging. The Langtons are designed so that one threads the running rigging through the eyelets in the sails, but with Ark Royals that would mean a lot of work drilling holes into the masts.

For the Ark Royal rigging I use the fibres from an old broom. I use crazy glue for one end. When it's set I go back and glue the other end. I do a little swoop for the running rigging as it reduces the need for cussing. As for cussing, I have found in time that the need for that reduces while the meditative benefits of rigging increases. I kid you not!!!

One last thing – have you heard of the Mad for War rules from the League of Augsberg? I think they're very good and specifically designed for this period.

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP28 Sep 2023 3:00 p.m. PST

Great photos of great models. I've always been intrigued by these wars but haven;t worked my way to them, a reason being the difficulty of producing nice looking models. Hope y'all have great joy. God bless Prince Rupert! He'll need it against de Ruyter.

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