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Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2023 3:58 p.m. PST

Does anyone make Prince Bernard in 15/18mm?

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP18 Sep 2023 5:13 p.m. PST

Is there anything distinctive about his uniform?

Artilleryman19 Sep 2023 1:06 a.m. PST

The Perrys make a figure of him.

4th Cuirassier19 Sep 2023 1:59 a.m. PST

Do you not just need a generic Netherlands officer? He was a colonel of the Netherlands army in charge of a brigade, so he'd presumably have looked like the bloke on the left below, but with two epaulettes and wearing a bicorne and maybe slightly more gold cuff and collar bling.

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BillyNM19 Sep 2023 2:57 a.m. PST

I think the Perry figures are based on this painting:
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4th Cuirassier19 Sep 2023 4:36 a.m. PST

Interesting Billy. So yes, a standard Netherlands line infantry officer's uniform. He had a title but his actual rank was colonel.

Artilleryman19 Sep 2023 7:41 a.m. PST

The print is well known as the Prince leads his staff in 'disobeying' the Duke. It is generally taken that the Prince is the colonel on the right in blue coat and bicorne.

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He is in the middle here so it is quite a good match.

Apparently when Wellington arrived at Quatre Bras he cut him dead. As usual with the Duke, he would not admit that a subordinate had done a better job.

Artilleryman19 Sep 2023 7:47 a.m. PST

The Prince was actually a battalion commander in the Orange Nassau Regiment

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His uniform is from here. Fate removed the brigade and regimental commanders to bring him to the fore.

Artilleryman19 Sep 2023 7:50 a.m. PST

Sorry, I have just reread the initial post and realised I had the scale wrong. AB miniatures do superb figures and have a range of mounted Netherlands officers who could easily be converted.

DrsRob19 Sep 2023 12:55 p.m. PST

The Prince was the Regimental Commander of the Orange-Nassau Regiment. Therefore he would have worn the Orange-Nassau uniform (dark blue with scarlet facings and silver epaulettes).
One could argue for the uniform of a Dutch colonel of the General Staff, but an undress cap of him has survived and it confirms to the regimental pattern of (as a supplier states:) a "bonnet la Russe".

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP19 Sep 2023 8:06 p.m. PST

Thanks guys. I think I found a substitute. Interesting discussion nonetheless. The problem was finding a Dutch figure with a bicorne. The AB Prince of Orange set has an aide with one but I didn't want to buy another set just for that one figure. So I am going to try and substitute a French command figure, I am considering doing a head swap with a Dutch officer figure.

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