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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian16 Sep 2023 5:17 p.m. PST

Andrii Yusov, representative of Ukraine's Defence Intelligence, has stated that Ramzan Kadyrov, Head of the Kremlin-controlled Chechnya, is in critical condition…

Kadyrov is believed to be 46 years old.

Ukrainian Pravda: link

Dn Jackson Supporting Member of TMP16 Sep 2023 8:00 p.m. PST

Fell out a window?

Ferd4523116 Sep 2023 8:02 p.m. PST

They should open some bedroom windows so he can get more fresh air. Of course if he is at death's doorstep I hope he'll be able to pull through. H

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian16 Sep 2023 10:45 p.m. PST

Rumors out of Russia that he's in a coma due to kidney disease of some kind.

Personal logo Herkybird Supporting Member of TMP17 Sep 2023 1:54 a.m. PST

Deniz Davidov's YouTube message said it was Renal (Kidneys), but no more information has been released as yet.

Arjuna17 Sep 2023 2:35 a.m. PST

A pity.
He looked a little bloated in the last year or so, that could have been water retention in the tissues due to kidney dysfunction.
Could be, I'm just making up a story for fun.
On the other hand, he's invincible and blessed by Allah, so it can't be.
evil grin

Here are some more rumors from the madhouse of the Russian colonial fringe.
Allegations surface that doctor ‘disappeared' after treating Kadyrov – on oc-media.org

Come on, the personal Medicus of the sultan, deputy prime minister (probably not anymore, the job ends with death), and former health minister of a warlord sultanate disappear after treating this bloated sultan toad.

Was it Ozempic, that didn't help with weight loss?
We will never know…

In revenge for a fantasized poisoning, whispered in his ear by the entourage at court?

Can things get any more colorful?
There's a promising neo-feudal/mobster/warlord role-playing game setting hiding in there.
Back of Beyond in Eastern Europe.
What rules would be fitting?

Bandolier17 Sep 2023 4:10 a.m. PST

He's built up much of his wealth in the illegal drug trade and it's been suspected for a while that he samples the merchandise a little too frequently.

bjporter17 Sep 2023 7:58 a.m. PST

One of the rumors is that he was being poisoned by his doctor. Incidentally, the doctor has disappeared. Allegedly buried alive somewhere.

wardog17 Sep 2023 12:44 p.m. PST

so if he does dies what happens his troops ,do they all give up and go home ?
who takes over his organisation?

Griefbringer18 Sep 2023 4:16 a.m. PST

There's a promising neo-feudal/mobster/warlord role-playing game setting hiding in there.
Back of Beyond in Eastern Europe.
What rules would be fitting?

How about Paranoia? Originally published by West Wind Games and more recently by Mongoose. The default setting already includes security clearances, back-stabbing, communists, cloning, mutants and so on. Com-put-in-er is your friend!

so if he does dies what happens his troops ,do they all give up and go home ?
who takes over his organisation?

I presume that the Russian Ministry of Defense could be interested in them – as they were with the Wagner fighters.

Arjuna18 Sep 2023 9:22 a.m. PST

How about Paranoia?

I remember this well and fondly from my youth about 35-40 years ago.
It has the right mood, no question, but something is missing.
I see, there is a nice looking Narco RPG, 'Cartel' from Magpie Games.
I like the artwork and the idea of course.

I'm no expert, but there seems to be a gap in the market for a role-playing game set in third- and second-world dictatorships/warzones where your character can socially rise from some simple (war) criminal to warlord, to respected elder statesman with WMD's on hand in some planetary hellhole.

Twilight 2000 comes to mind, but it deals only with lower levels of the social ladder in a post-apocalyptic setting.

Griefbringer18 Sep 2023 10:13 a.m. PST

Did I mention that Paranoia also includes back-stabbing traitors? Of course with the usual amount of back-stabbing treachery present in a Paranoia campaign, not to mention the general disregard for health and safety regulations in the setting, few characters might survive for long enough to rise high in the social hierarchy. Which should be quite realistic from a statistical perspective – not every barbarian mercenary can become a king.

there seems to be a gap in the market for a role-playing game set in third- and second-world dictatorships/warzones where your character can socially rise from some simple (war) criminal to warlord, to respected elder statesman with WMD's on hand in some planetary hellhole.

Do you really need a whole game to be designed from scratch for such need? Wouldn't a lot of modern games work, with the addition of some extra rules for social rise in long-term campaigns – though a lot of that development should be up to game master to manage. Not sure if GURPS is still in production, but it tended to cover modern settings quite well straight from the main book, and also catered for the prospects of characters social status, friends and enemies and other (dis)advantages. However, it would require a bit of guidelines for using all those in this kind of campaigns. And speaking of campaigns, I recall that Pendragon had some interesting mechanisms for covering characters life and development between the adventures.

dapeters18 Sep 2023 10:28 a.m. PST

Wasn't there attempt on his life a year go?

Arjuna18 Sep 2023 10:31 a.m. PST

Do you really need a whole game to be designed from scratch for such need?

No, you're right.
Especially because I was actually more of a storytelling type of game master.
It was more a matter of negotiation and exchange of arguments within the framework of a jointly told story.
The dice rolling and pretending to study tables for a result was just for form's sake and to add exciting risks and uncertainties.
A show element.

Maybe something like 'Dune: Adventures in the Imperium' as far as I have read about it.

Griefbringer18 Sep 2023 10:58 a.m. PST

Wasn't there attempt on his life a year go?

That would hardly be a surprise to anybody – and I presume Kadyrov himself was quite aware of the prospect.

Maybe something like 'Dune: Adventures in the Imperium' as far as I have read about it.

I am not too familiar with that game, but I just came to think of the Rogue Trader RPG that I borrowed a decade ago or so. Set in the WH40K universe, this involves unscrupulous characters commanding a massive spaceship (with huge crew), travelling the fringes of the decaying totalitarian inter-stellar Imperium (ruled by an undying carrion lord) and looting lost alien civilizations for their riches and ancient technology (which the Imperium officially considers inferior to its own, but for which there is still plenty of demand).

That said, in the hectic modern world perhaps a board game that could be played in a day could be more in demand? When it comes to the top of the hierarchy, there is the classic Junta (anybody heard if there is an African version in works?), but how does one make it first to a colonel or warlord that can launch a credible coup or revolution?

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian18 Sep 2023 4:19 p.m. PST

Latest rumor: failed kidney transplant

Aljazeera: link

Or poison???

Ukrainian Pravda: link

Cuprum218 Sep 2023 7:58 p.m. PST

wardog, Chechen society is quite archaic and has a clan (tribal) structure. The clan from which Kadyrov comes is called Benoy. This is the largest clan in Chechnya. It makes up a third of the population of Chechnya, and therefore the victory of representatives of this clan in any, even the most democratic, elections is practically guaranteed (other, smaller tribes are unlikely to be able to unite enough to push the Benoy clan from power).
If Ramzan Kadyrov dies, most likely the republic will be headed by the next representative of the Benoy clan. Chechnya is not ruled by Ramzan Kadyrov, Chechnya is ruled by the Benoy clan.

Arjuna19 Sep 2023 6:32 a.m. PST

@Griefbringer

perhaps a board game

I sense a repeating pattern over the passage of time, whose ripples are reflected even in such mundane pastimes as boardgames.
An undead past that haunts the living.
Despicable the ones that have awakened it again.
Despicable those that feed it with blood and lies.

Kremlin (1986) – On Boardgamegeek

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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian20 Sep 2023 7:01 p.m. PST

He provided video proof that he's alive.

Arjuna21 Sep 2023 4:23 a.m. PST

Still a pity.

Did his former personal physician, former Deputy Prime Minister and Health Minister Suleymanov, donate his two kidneys to him?

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