"which regiments to paint as Zouaves?" Topic

I picked up some Tiny Tin Troops ACW Union standards, which of these would be Zouaves? I starred a few that I found some info on.

IL 9, 13, 66
IN 15, 18*, 42
MA 18, 28
NJ 7, 24, 33*
NY 5*, 60, 124
OH 33, 46*, 68*
PA 28*, 45, 61
US 3, 11

As far as I know, none of the US Infantry Regiments wore the Zouave uniform.

Jim

14th NY?

According to this link:

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you've already identified all of the listed regiments that were partly or completely dressed or designated as zouaves. Several of them only contained one or more zouave companies, presumably so designated either before the war or at mustering in; one doubts that these 1861 uniforms lasted very long.

But certainly the 5th NY is a famous zouave regiment.

Agree with the above – many regiments had a single Zouave company and for the US regulars i) there were not that many of them and ii) they pretty much all wore regulation blue

The 5th NY was certainly famous – another unit which was not the list but was a great unit was the 114th Pennsylvania (Collis' Zouaves) which was raised in 1862 and fought through the war in Zouave uniform – they were at most of the major battles of the Army of the Potomac and in 1864 served as Meade's headquarters guard

Same same on the 114 PA. They kept the uniform (some with turban) thru the entire war. It's my only Zouave unit in my Union army.

I also did the Louisiana Tigers for the confederate army. Not near as long a history, but I just had to have them.

You really need to get this book if you want to do Zouaves:
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14th NY?

Tom, it was the 14th Brooklyn, which became the 84th NY

I also did the Louisiana Tigers for the confederate army. Not near as long a history, but I just had to have them.

Most paint an entire unit up in the same uniform when in actuality most of the companies of the Louisiana Special Battalion had different uniforms. The unit was broken up after 1st Bull Run.

Kim

You can also check with Osprey's Elite Series #62, American Civil War Zouaves. The link Eumelus provided is very extensive, but largely consists of individual companies which may, or may not, have had zouave style uniforms at one time.

Here's a list from the Series #62 of the Union regiments that had zouave uniform at some point:
NY- 1, 5, 10, 44, 69, 140, 146, 165
NJ- 33, 35
Penn- 23, 72, 75, 76, 95, 114, 155
In- 11 (there may some question as to whether or not all the companies in this regiments had zouave uniforms; only a few had them at Wilson's Creek)

39th NY Inf (Garibaldi Guard) "This regiment wore a uniform which was a copy of the famed Bersaglieri of Italy. The uniform consisted of a red flannel shirt with a broad collar, dark blue trousers, black leather leggings, and a soft felt hat with a cock feather."

54th NY Inf. (Schwarzer Jaeger) "They were uniformed in black and silver like the regiment they were named after (Lutzow's Schwarzer Jaeger) and carried the stars and stripes."

"More than fifty Zouave units have been identified as serving in the Federal Army. They were from the following states: New York-17; Pennsylvania-11; Wisconsin-8; Ohio-7; Massachusetts-3; Illinois-2; and Indiana-2. And, one each came from the following states: Kentucky, Missouri, Michigan, Kansas, New Jersey, Maine, Rhode Island and District of Columbia." "Not many did wear a Zouave uniform (Zouave in name only) or left no record of their uniforms."

New York: Duryea's Zouaves (5th NY), Wilson's Zouaves (5th NY), Hawkins Zouaves (9th NY); National Zouaves (10th NY), Ellsworth's Fire Zouaves (11th NY);"Brooklyn Regiment (14th NY); Ellsworth's Avengers( 44th NY), Anderson's Zouaves (62nd NY); Halleck Inf (146th NY); Duryee's Zouaves (165th NY)

The other states are listed and more detail comes from "Uniforms of the Civil War" by Francis A. Lord (An author I trust!) printed in 1970 by A.S. Barnes and Co. Library of Congress card number 75-81681 (SBN: 498 06731 9)

Kim: My copy came from Morningside Books that was on Oak St. in Dayton years ago! Remember them?

RE Louisiana Tigers; uniform is a pretty strong word for their dress. I'm not sure two men had the same uniform much less a full company. That is the way I painted them up. Even though the unit was broken up, the men still served in one of the Louisiana brigades.

"Most paint an entire unit up in the same uniform when in actuality most of the companies of the Louisiana Special Battalion had different uniforms. The unit was broken up after 1st Bull Run."

They survived until their commander, R. Wheat, was killed at Gaines Mill in 1862. No one else could control them so the battalion was broken up and the troops sent to other Louisiana regiments.

Kim: My copy came from Morningside Books that was on Oak St. in Dayton years ago! Remember them?

Sure do Tom! I have some of those still. Tom Bookwalter and I still talk about those old days how great it was to have a local publisher of historical works. I really wanted to buy his complete set of the Official Records, but it was several thousand dollars!

Kim