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Malchor04 Sep 2023 7:56 a.m. PST

Let's say someone wanted to try out some of the early wargame rule sets originally played with flats. Let's also say that the person who wanted to do so was not interested in searching for and acquiring actual flats from that time.

Does anyone know what size paper 2D miniatures are a good stand-in? Is there a specific maker or free source?

Also, any idea of the dimensions for counters (matching more or less the footprint of flats) if that person was OK with using counters as the stand-in?

Cheers, and thank you in advance.

Personal logo Steve at The Vault Sponsoring Member of TMP04 Sep 2023 9:17 a.m. PST

Might find something here – link

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2023 10:10 a.m. PST

Don't neglect the Vault, but I'd also look for very early books of paper soldiers, which tend to be bigger and show left and right sides while a lot of the modern stuff is front and back, and in ranks.

Might also look at something like this:
link
If the link doesn't come through, AG Smith "Civil War Paper Soldiers in Full Color. It's an old Dover Press.

FusilierDan Supporting Member of TMP04 Sep 2023 12:46 p.m. PST

This facebook group may have something
link

there's junior general
juniorgeneral.org

The Peter Dennis figures look good
peterspaperboys.com

Malchor04 Sep 2023 2:47 p.m. PST

Found a reference in Tony Bath's Setting Up a Wargames Campaign (p. 54), that Tony Bath used 40mm flats.

As robert piepenbrink points out, they also need to be profile/side view.

I'll check out juniorgeneral.org and the Vault. Now to work out how you print to the right scale and what size the bases were.

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