hi EEE ya ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 02 Sep 2023 11:43 p.m. PST |
Hello everyone, November 27, 1868, what outfit did the men of the 7th U.S. Cavalry Regiment wear at the Washita River. Yours aye Paskal |
phssthpok | 03 Sep 2023 2:50 a.m. PST |
Given the date and the foot of fresh snow on the ground; full winter campaign dress. |
hi EEE ya ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 03 Sep 2023 4:10 a.m. PST |
Full winter campaign dress ? How is that ? |
79thPA ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 03 Sep 2023 5:12 a.m. PST |
Are you asking what winter campaign dress looked like? |
hi EEE ya ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 03 Sep 2023 7:15 a.m. PST |
Yes, what type of winter campaign dress wear the men of the 7th U.S. Cavalry Regiment at the Washita River. And the redskin ? what kind of outfits? |
79thPA ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 03 Sep 2023 9:02 a.m. PST |
A civil war greatcoat or overcoat, and privately purchased gloves or mittens. |
hi EEE ya ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 03 Sep 2023 10:13 a.m. PST |
And the Indians who were caught "jumping out of bed" what kind of outfits? Like in summer? |
jurgenation ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 03 Sep 2023 2:33 p.m. PST |
all the information is online or in Osprey books etc… |
hi EEE ya ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 03 Sep 2023 11:58 p.m. PST |
There are no Osprey books talking about the outfit worn by the 7th Cavalry at the Washita River. |
42flanker | 04 Sep 2023 4:40 a.m. PST |
Soldiers campaigning in the depths of a plains winter hardly looked like a military unit, they were so bundled up but the military great coat would have been the basis of the clothing worn by enlisted men. |
hi EEE ya ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 04 Sep 2023 11:28 p.m. PST |
The outfit they wear almost throughout the 1949 American western, "She Wore a Yellow Ribbon", directed by John Ford, while this western takes place south of the flat river in desert areas. |
42flanker | 06 Sep 2023 4:15 p.m. PST |
That's merely the greatcoat. The troops on campaign during the winter on the high plains were bundled up variously in fur hats, balaklavas, scarves, fur mittens and fur over leggins. The appearance of the cavalry in Ford's trilogy were based in part on paintings by Frederick Remington which related more to the 1880s. The tan-coloured hats, the informal but essentially uniform appearance, the braces and bandannas, set the tone for a mythical movie version of the US Cavalry over years to come. |
hi EEE ya ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 07 Sep 2023 3:03 a.m. PST |
At the Washita River the men of the 7th U.S. Cavalry Regiment wear only the greatcoat? |
Steve A Miller | 27 Oct 2023 7:22 a.m. PST |
Actually Custer had his men remove their greatcoats just before the attack began so they could fight better. So they would have been wearing their 5-button blouses and regulation blue wool pants. The "arctic" clothing Mentioned above (fur mittens, fur over leggins etc) were not available till the 70s. Crook's men for his '76 Powder River fight in March of '76 had them. Some regiments stationed on the Northern Plains may have had company tailors make winter protective clothing for use in garrison before that year, but the only use in the field that I've read of in the 60's was the 100-man detail escorting Col. Carrington to his new post in January of '67 to his new post thru a brutal Wyoming blizzard was so equiped. |