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Personal logo 4th Cuirassier Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2023 3:46 p.m. PST

Quite interesting:

dcmmedals.co.uk/27069-2

They were a constructive yeomanry regiment and actually took 12% casualties from artillery before quitting the field at Waterloo. I didn't realise that…

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2023 7:06 p.m. PST

Oh yes. The greenest Hanoverian unit not actually labelled "landwehr" though I can't find any other reference which gets their casualties above 51 killed and wounded--actually pretty light for Waterloo--and none of the others felt compelled to ride back to Brussels as a result. Wellington would have done much better to leave them as at Hal and have the Estorff or the Bremen-Verden on the battlefield.

I've built Hanoverian armies multiple times in multiple scales, but I've never felt any urge to command that batch.

42flanker01 Sep 2023 11:49 p.m. PST

Poor old Prince Ernest Augustus. He just couldn't catch a break- although he might have been distracted by his pursuit of his cousin Frederica of Mecklenburg-Strelitz, until recently inconveniently married and then happily widowed.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2023 11:52 p.m. PST

That is a great article, with many a detail I had not read before.

14Bore02 Sep 2023 4:00 a.m. PST

They do seem to wreck my other Hanoverian Hussar rating
Very good read

Murvihill02 Sep 2023 4:08 a.m. PST

I had to paint that regiment when I made Hanoverians as my only cavalry. This article makes it sound like it was all Hacke's fault, I wonder if it was or he was just the scapegoat.

Personal logo 4th Cuirassier Supporting Member of TMP02 Sep 2023 7:07 a.m. PST

Does anyone know if it was Hacke or Hake?

Even 51 casualties would be over 10%. It does make one wonder how all those volunteer yeomanry would have performed had Napoleon managed to invade England.

In game terms, I suppose the way to represent this would be to give each marginal unit a chance of deserting. Every turn it takes fire or is required to advance, you throw a D6. If you roll a 1, your marginal unit instantly decamps.

The Duke of Cumberland's Hussars would have had to roll several D6 as they took artillery casualties, and initially they stayed in line, but eventually they rolled that 1.

Mark J Wilson15 Oct 2023 4:13 a.m. PST

Reads like Hacke was another Sackville and no one castigates the Horse Guards and others present at Mniden for his behaviour.

If the Cumberlands were 'gentleman' cavalry I'm not sure they're comparable to the yeomanry, many of whom were from farming stock. The performance of all the English troops if actually defending England against the Grande Armee, as opposed to the scum that landed in Wales, is one of histories great mysteries.

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