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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP31 Aug 2023 8:54 p.m. PST

Interesting… but you have to use a translator…


"At the end of October 1806, French troops invaded the small Electorate of Hesse-Kassel and seven years of foreign rule began. The newly founded Kingdom of Westphalia united Prussian, Hanoverian, Electoral Hessian and Saxon territories. The seat of government was Wilhelmshöhe Castle in Kassel. The younger brother of Emperor Napoléon, Jérôme, ruled.


As early as 1806 there had been an uprising against the new occupying power in Marburg, in which residents of Sterzhausen had also been involved. On June 24, 1809 there was another Marburg uprising (insurrection). This was led by the medical professor Johann Heinrich Sternberg and the Hessian lieutenant Andreas Emmerich…"
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Personal logo 4th Cuirassier Supporting Member of TMP01 Sep 2023 1:49 a.m. PST

They just needed the advantages of wise and beneficent Napoleonic rule explained to them better. What are conscription, forced subsidy of the French army, and being looted / ruled by the talentless corrupt useless brother of some Corsican gangster warlord in Paris, when set alongside the chance to speak French every day and to use the metric system?

Royale with cheese, I say.

Erzherzog Johann01 Sep 2023 1:12 p.m. PST

4th Cuirassier,
I value a lot of your contribution on these boards,but when you seize the first opportunity to launch into yet another adjective laden barrage against Napoleon,it gets a bit boring(even if well written!). We know your opinion of him. All regimes acted badly back then and committed executions that might be considered criminal in today's terms. Can you give us a break?

Cheers,
John

Decebalus03 Sep 2023 4:42 p.m. PST

Erzherzog Johann. I don't know not one German supporter of Napoleon, that was executed after the French left Germany. That isn't surprising, because most German souvereigns had also supported Napoleon. But even the members of the Jacobin club of Mayence from 1793 were allowed to migrate to France after the French troops had left the Rhineland. So not all regimes acted the same.

Erzherzog Johann04 Sep 2023 2:00 a.m. PST

Decebalus,
Point taken that not all regimes acted the same. I was thinking more of the "big five", who all made pretty liberal use of the death sentence, often for quite minor offences in the 18th – 19th centuries (especially if the offence was perpetrated by a poor person). Times were different then.

Cheers,
John

von Winterfeldt04 Sep 2023 4:27 a.m. PST

the time frame 18th – 19th century is quite broad – so why not restrict it to Boney's rule while he was emperor of the French?

@Erzherzog Johann, so please can you tell me when and where the Prussians used pretty liberal use of death sentence at that time.

As for the mutiny or uprising, the death sentence may be legal as for the Marburg incident, but what about Palm?

Erzherzog Johann06 Sep 2023 2:36 a.m. PST

Agreed, the Prussians had attempted to incorporate a lot of enlightenment thinking so their Penal Code was more progressive in many respects. The death sentence was mostly only for murder.

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