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Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Aug 2023 10:19 a.m. PST

I have started painting a collection of 54mm plastic ACW armies (…and you know how this will end up). The Britains company has what they call their Deetail figure and this includes some very nice looking Napoleons, 3-inch Rifled guns and a Parrot 10 pounder,

Here is a picture of a Confederate 3-inch Rodman battery and you can find more pictures by clicking on the link to my blog:

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So far I have painted six 30-figure Union regiments with many more to come.
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dBerczerk28 Aug 2023 11:09 a.m. PST

Quite inspiring! Which ruleset do you plan to use for this game?

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2023 12:10 p.m. PST

Nice. I love 54s.

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP28 Aug 2023 2:20 p.m. PST

I use the ACW version of my Fife and Drum rules.

Extrabio1947 Supporting Member of TMP28 Aug 2023 5:22 p.m. PST

It's a very nice photo, and Britains are lovely figures, but the cannons shown are 3" Ordnance Rifles. Rodman guns were quite large (the smallest was an 8" piece weighing around 8,500 pounds) and were primarily used as siege and naval guns.

It will be really interesting to watch your ACW project develop.

Personal logo KimRYoung Supporting Member of TMP29 Aug 2023 8:31 a.m. PST

+1 Extrabio1947

I am shocked how many gamer's, rule writers and manufactures refer to the 3" Ordnance Rifle as a "Rodman".

It is well know that this gun was designed by John Griffen (the Griffen Gun) and the manufacturing process was improved on by Samuel Reeves of PIC. As you pointed out, Thomas Rodman developed the large coastal and naval guns.

It is also disheartening to see ACW rules using the term "Foot Artillery" for batteries too. When I see this, or the term "Rodman" for ordnance rifles, I dismiss their credibility due to poor research if no other reason.

Kim

donlowry29 Aug 2023 5:19 p.m. PST

Was the 3" not (mistakenly) called a Rodman at the time?

Personal logo KimRYoung Supporting Member of TMP29 Aug 2023 7:17 p.m. PST

Was the 3" not (mistakenly) called a Rodman at the time?

Yes, some artillerists, including officers, did mistakenly refer to them as Rodman guns in reports. Much like the 6lb rifled bronze gun was mistakenly referred to as a "James Rifle" (these were 3.67" 6lb smoothbores that were rifled and fitted with a James projectile and designated by the army as 6lb rifles).

These mistaken observations have been noted by historians for many, many years.

Kim

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP30 Aug 2023 10:30 a.m. PST

Thank you for the correction William. I'd always heard them referred to as Rodmans, but I won't do that anymore. I trust in your knowledge of things ACW.

Kim, I'm sorry to have shocked you. I'm sure that you didn't mean it to sound the way it reads.

Personal logo KimRYoung Supporting Member of TMP30 Aug 2023 12:06 p.m. PST

Jim,

I wasn't trying to be offensive towards you. Your 54's are awesome. I loved your Khartoum game at Historicon! If I wasn't running 4 games myself I would have played. I did get lots of pics though.

Good luck with your project.

Kim

uglyfatbloke01 Nov 2023 11:47 a.m. PST

Dammit….I don't think the deetail guns are available in the UK. I've just bought a pair of the old Swoppet ones.

CHRIS DODSON Supporting Member of TMP03 Nov 2023 10:30 a.m. PST

This excellent site may be of use.

Although Antietam on the web is geared towards this battle, there is an extraordinary amount of information on it.

Here is the weapons section, small arms and artillery statistics .

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Best wishes,

Chris

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