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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP20 Aug 2023 8:43 p.m. PST

… OTTOMAN SOLDIER IN WORLD WAR II

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Armand

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP13 Nov 2023 2:15 p.m. PST

Thanks for that!

Nine pound round05 Jan 2024 1:20 p.m. PST

Very interesting, and spot-on in identifying the key issue up front: the literacy level of the Ottoman Army was about 10%, probably lower than any other Army, except maybe the Russians or some of the Balkan states.

Add to that the fact that all the documents were still in old-style Turkish calligraphy, Ataturk not yet having introduced a Western alphabet to Turkey, and you can see why there are so few Turkish accounts. Virtually every account of Gallipoli cites Zeki Bey, but as nearly as I can tell, this is just a retelling of his 1919 conversations with Charles Bean that are recounted in "Gallipoli Mission." This is not a criticism of Zeki or Bean, but it's a little astonishing to see his account quoted once you realize that he was simply reminiscing with Bean while they were looking over the old Anzac bridgehead, and that his descriptions didn't come out of diaries or letters written at the time of the event.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP29 Jun 2024 10:35 p.m. PST

Was the U.S. Army Really the "Decisive" Force in World War I?


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