"British Repressive Measures 1792-1815" Topic
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| Brechtel198 | 23 Jul 2023 2:26 p.m. PST |
why, I wonder, do you think l'empereur -phile Brechtel posted his OP quotation? Simple-it's important to show both sides of the issue, and there is enough France-bashing (most of it being highly inaccurate and without any references) on the forum… |
| McLaddie | 23 Jul 2023 3:34 p.m. PST |
The following material is taken from the Historical Dictionary of Napoleonic France, 1799-1815 edited by Owen Connelly, 219-222.There were no democracies in Europe during the Revolution and Napoleonic period, nor was the United States a democracy then, but a republic. Brechtel198:
That presentation implies that the "following material" is Connelly's. Quotations are easy to see as they are in quotation marks. The paraphrases are not. How is it you can paraphrase Connelly, but say "Connelly didn't say that. It was my conclusion based on years of study and teaching history and government." Are you in the habit of inserting your own ideas while "paraphrasing" other's conclusions? So, it wasn't Connelly's material, and not you paraphrasing him, but your own beliefs. Not a big deal, but you can see why I might be surprised that Connelly didn't say that… It's all in the presentation. |
| Brechtel198 | 24 Jul 2023 2:24 a.m. PST |
What I stated was that the material was taken from Connelly. And Connelly's material is in quotation marks. …it wasn't Connelly's material, and not you paraphrasing him, but your own beliefs. The material was taken from Connelly and properly put in quotation marks. Paraphrased material is not. You are delving into semantics for what purpose? Perhaps you should get and read the referenced text? |
| McLaddie | 24 Jul 2023 7:36 a.m. PST |
The material was taken from Connelly and properly put in quotation marks. Paraphrased material is not. You are delving into semantics for what purpose? Par·a·phrase
[ˈperəˌfrāz]
VERB
To express the meaning of (the writer or speaker or something written or spoken) using different words, especially to achieve greater clarity. Brechtel198: So, the only way you could be paraphrasing Connelly would be if he DID say that the US wasn't a democracy and you simply used different words to express HIS thought. IF you were expressing your own opinion, and not Connelly's as you say, then you weren't paraphrasing Connelly. Perhaps you should get and read the referenced text? I would hope it would be clearer than your text. |
| 42flanker | 24 Jul 2023 7:37 a.m. PST |
Actually, the phrase "The following material is taken" (note quotation marks) does suggest that the material that follows will be the work of the author cited and that the selected passages placed between inverted commas are there to illustrate his thesis. Not a monument to clarity, one might conclude. |
| Gazzola | 05 Aug 2023 3:33 a.m. PST |
GildasFFacit & dibble The countries going back to monarchy after their revolutions resulted in peace for everyone, right? No more wars-correct? No one suffered in the world or died after they returned to monarchy? After all, a monarchy ruled country would never go to war, would it? LOL |
| Brechtel198 | 05 Aug 2023 4:58 a.m. PST |
Napoleon's defeat, and the ensuing settlement in Vienna, also sparked the revolutions of 1823, 1830, and 1848 in Spain, Holland, Belgium, France (twice), Prussia and Austria. Nothing like peace and quiet…:-) |
| dibble | 05 Aug 2023 9:59 p.m. PST |
Gazzola GildasFFacit & dibbleThe countries going back to monarchy after their revolutions resulted in peace for everyone, right? No more wars-correct? No one suffered in the world or died after they returned to monarchy? After all, a monarchy ruled country would never go to war, would it? LOL Are you OK? What 'exactly' led you to post that silliness? Please show the points in my/our post(s). |
| ConnaughtRanger | 06 Aug 2023 1:33 p.m. PST |
dibble Please don't post quotes from Gazzola without a very clear trigger warning -it breaches my "Stifle" function and causes me untold trauma. |
| dibble | 07 Aug 2023 10:34 a.m. PST |
ConnaughtRanger dibblePlease don't post quotes from Gazzola without a very clear trigger warning -it breaches my "Stifle" function and causes me untold trauma. Sorry old bean. But If I were you I'd just sit back and read his posts out of curiosity. Face yer' demons so as to speak I see Kevin's been Dog-housed again? Staying at his usual kennel…:D |
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