| Tango01 | 03 Jul 2023 9:30 p.m. PST |
…points in Russian military "The Wagner Group rebellion is expected to have a harmful ripple effect across Russia's armed forces as the Kremlin works to weed out supporters of the attempted insurrection, with internal divisions and strife likely to weaken fighting capabilities.
Shake-ups in Russia's military command could further impact the leadership overseeing the war in Ukraine, analysts say, while Russian soldiers already struggling with a morale issue are now exposed to political infighting and questions about loyalty…." Main page link Armand
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| JMcCarroll | 04 Jul 2023 5:31 a.m. PST |
Reminds you of Stalin's purges. How many heads must roll for this one? |
Garryowen  | 04 Jul 2023 8:31 a.m. PST |
Couldn't happen to a more deserving bunch of guys. Tom |
Legion 4  | 04 Jul 2023 10:15 a.m. PST |
Both posts +2 … The Russian Military rivals some Mid East and African Forces it appears. One US GEN Ret. describes them as "marginal at best" … |
| Tango01 | 04 Jul 2023 3:26 p.m. PST |
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| Cuprum2 | 05 Jul 2023 3:06 a.m. PST |
The Russian army is so demoralized that there are no significant results during the month of the Ukrainian offensive, although already half of the Ukrainian brigades prepared for this offensive are no longer combat-ready due to losses. By the way, yesterday Prigozhin was officially returned the billions of cash that had been confiscated from him during the search (immediately after the "mutiny"). Two trucks full of money! As well as gold bullion, cash dollars and a personal arsenal of weapons. Apparently this is to organize a new coup))) |
| jsmcc91 | 05 Jul 2023 9:13 a.m. PST |
Cuprum, do you have valid proof that the Ukrainian forces are done? |
| ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa | 05 Jul 2023 10:50 a.m. PST |
So far one Ukrainian brigade seems to have been shuffled out the line and into a quieter sector and that appears to have more to do with equipment than manpower. link |
| Dragon Gunner | 05 Jul 2023 12:54 p.m. PST |
@Cuprum If the reports, we are hearing are true the Ukrainians are inflicting hideous losses on Russian conscript rabble poorly equipped and poorly trained. It sounds like the Russian's are losing the equivalent of a battalion a day, sometimes more. The question is, will the Russian population tolerate such losses indefinitely? Modern Russians are not the serfs, peasants and collective farm workers of the past. (I doubt the average Russian believes the Vranyo…) |
| nickinsomerset | 05 Jul 2023 2:22 p.m. PST |
Dragon Gunner "we are hearing are true the Ukrainians are inflicting hideous losses on Russian" All lies, the three day special operation has nearly been a huge success with 98,000 Ukrainian tanks destroyed in a single day, Putin says so, Tally Ho! |
| Tango01 | 05 Jul 2023 3:29 p.m. PST |
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| Cuprum2 | 05 Jul 2023 7:23 p.m. PST |
jsmcc91, I did not say that the Ukrainian troops were done with – I said that they did not have any significant success during months of intense fighting in various directions. They did not even reach the main Russian defensive line anywhere, located 5-10 km from the main line of contact between troops. Doesn't this result speak for itself? A month for "reconnaissance in force"? This is simply ridiculous. ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa, all we can do now is investigate the rumors. But a month of intense offensive battles against pre-prepared enemy positions, on carefully mined territory, under the active influence of artillery and aviation – and minimal losses? Surprised by your optimism))) Dragon Gunner Russian "draft conscript" already has six months of war experience. Ask any member of your army if such soldiers can be called "rabble"))) Also ask him who suffers heavy losses – the one who defends in pre-arranged excellent positions, or the one who is forced to attack these positions over and over again without obvious results. I do not see any signs of heavy losses allegedly suffered by the Russian army. There are no constant funeral ceremonies, there is no gloom, there are no frequent stories about dead relatives or friends. Life is not much different from before the war. I have many friends and acquaintances – military personnel. Many have already participated in the war in Ukraine and have already returned. Some were injured. There are losses, but no one calls them critical. No one doubts victory, but they are set for a protracted war. Many sign a contract again. The mood in the rear, at least in my city, is quite optimistic. Yesterday I just read an announcement in the chat of our city district – women, on their own initiative, organized the production of camouflage nets for the front, they invite everyone to participate. The guys from the school where my daughter studies make drones for the front at their own expense… A month ago, my friend, the beekeeper, sent a batch of his honey to the warring guys from our city as a gift… Everything is fine – there are no defeatist moods or despondency. Have you heard about the giant traffic jams in the Crimea? Vacationers from Russia massively go to the Crimean beaches. The Russian fleet was forced to allocate two large landing ships to transport vacationers to the Crimean resorts. Here is the problem))) |
| Tango01 | 05 Jul 2023 10:06 p.m. PST |
Latest Defence Intelligence update on the situation in Ukraine – 05 July 2023. link
RUSSIAN OFFENSIVE CAMPAIGN ASSESSMENT, JULY 4, 2023
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| williamb | 06 Jul 2023 1:25 a.m. PST |
From the news site I posted about. Top stories -- Ukraine carries out various strikes on ammo depots and oil facilities. Military -- a large ammo depot was hit in Makiivka last night, causing a large explosion felt over 15 km away. -- A Fuel Depot in Russian Occupied Makiivka was hit and caught fire -- While some russian reports state that Ukraine has captured Klishchiivka, a key town south of Bakhmut, it is more likely that Russians are in the village pinned in by Ukrainian fire from the hights above the village. -- The main admin building in occupied Volnoakha was hit -- Strikes/explosions at a railway station in Russian-occupied Yasynuvata (The Yasynuvata near Donetsk. -- some Pro Ukraine media made claims that Russia used Lewisite, a chemical weapon. The video and reported symptoms do not match Lewisite or other agents like it. It was much more likely to be green signal smoke. -- There has been some discussion on a change of Ukrainian tactics in attacking russian fortifications. Instead of trying to directly breach the lines, Ukraine moves forces till they are in contact with Russia, and then bunker down as Russia fires artillery. Ukraine then tries to counter battery to take out artillery, and when Russian forces are out of ammo, Infantry with the support of tanks and IFVs advance as Russian ammo depots are generally 100 km away to avoid being hit by HIMARS. This is slower then direct assaults but drains Russian artillery and lowers the loss of equipment and men in the attacks. -- Ukraine made limited advances towards Donetsk. |
| Cuprum2 | 06 Jul 2023 3:22 a.m. PST |
There is one effective way to lie – this is when you tell the truth, but only the one that plays in your favor))) It seems that you did not lie – but at the same time created an absolutely distorted picture. Do you think Russian troops are hitting Ukrainian depots and reserves? Why do you think the Russian troops leave the villages located in the lowlands to the Ukrainians, while remaining on the heights around these villages? Russian shells and rockets ended a year ago. Or not?))) Who complains about the constant powerful artillery shelling – Russians or Ukrainians? Some messages… This is a very interesting formulation. This is done simply: you create a fake account, supposedly belonging to the side of the enemy, and post everything you see fit there. And then refer to these posts))) I personally prefer long-established accounts that have long proven their validity. They do not need to be called "some" they can be called by their real names))) The front line has not been broken through by the Ukrainians anywhere, and the main line of fortifications has not even been reached. For a month of fighting. This is an indisputable fact. No facts of flight or uncontrolled retreats on the Russian side have been recorded. And this is an indisputable fact. On the contrary, the Russians regularly counter-attack and often take back the territory they have abandoned. The Russians did not have any problems with ammunition, the intensity of the fire did not weaken. An indisputable fact. The Russians did not commit their reserves and there is no sign that they are going to do so. Again – an indisputable fact. Well, various excuses why the Ukrainians failed to achieve anything significant in a month of intense fighting, you can choose any to your taste – their Ukrainian propaganda gives out massively))) |
| Dragon Gunner | 06 Jul 2023 5:54 a.m. PST |
"draft conscript" already has six months of war experience" From what we have been hearing conscripts receive a few weeks of training and are immediately sent to the front. Living in a trench for six months does not constitute instant "war experience" The learning curb is high and paid in blood if it is not learned in training. "I do not see any signs of heavy losses allegedly suffered by the Russian army." Rumor is the Russian government is hiding the severity of the losses. "The mood in the rear, at least in my city, is quite optimistic." Anyone protesting the war in your country is handed fines or prison sentences. Civilian support for your troops is not the same as endorsement of the war. |
| Cuprum2 | 06 Jul 2023 6:16 a.m. PST |
The conscript comes to the combat unit, where he is trained by veterans. And definitely well trained. While Wagner's mercenaries worked off their money in Bakhmut, Russian conscripts learned from veterans. And we are now seeing the results of this training in practice. Losses are not announced by either side – and this is normal during the war. But I have been living for a long time and have seen many wars – Afghan, two Chechen, and many other local ones. Believe me, if the death toll is high, it is impossible to hide. Especially now, with such a development of social networks … There are losses, but nothing that could make society horrified. I already wrote that among my acquaintances I know only about two dead (this was last year) and five people were injured. All of them are professional soldiers or volunteers (also former servicemen). Anyone who does not agree can go abroad at any time (until the moment he received a summons for conscription – but the conscription was once last year, now the main emphasis is on recruiting volunteers under a contract). By the way, what about the right to protest against the war in Ukraine? ;-) |
| williamb | 06 Jul 2023 7:04 a.m. PST |
Cuprum2: "half of the Ukrainian brigades prepared for this offensive are no longer combat-ready due to losses" Jsmcc91: "Cuprum, do you have valid proof that the Ukrainian forces are done?" Cuprum2: "jsmcc91, I did not say that the Ukrainian troops were done with" Stating half the Ukrainian brigades are no longer combat-ready is the same as stating they are done" Nor did you answer Jsmcc91's question of "do you have valid proof?" by providing that proof. The following applies to what you are posting when you do not provide proof: Cuprum2: "There is one effective way to lie – this is when you tell the truth, but only the one that plays in your favor))) It seems that you did not lie – but at the same time created an absolutely distorted picture." |
Editor in Chief Bill  | 06 Jul 2023 7:39 a.m. PST |
Why do you think the Russian troops leave the villages located in the lowlands to the Ukrainians, while remaining on the heights around these villages? I've seen no evidence of that being true. On the other hand, we have reports of Russians forcing civilians to evacuate. Russians regularly counter-attack and often take back the territory they have abandoned. Russians often make false claims of counterattacks, probably commanders trying to look good to their superiors. But what we see on the ground is steady progress by Ukrainian soldiers. The Russians did not have any problems with ammunition, the intensity of the fire did not weaken. An indisputable fact.
And much of that fire is inaccurate. The Ukrainian soldiers in Kherson that crossed the river report repeated misses by Russian missiles, splashing into the river or failing to strike the bridge ruins. |
| williamb | 06 Jul 2023 8:35 a.m. PST |
Non-Ukrainian sources report that less than half the Ukrainian brigades prepared for the offensive have been committed to the attacks. link Cuprum2: "half of the Ukrainian brigades prepared for this offensive are no longer combat-ready due to losses" Based on these two statements, there are no Ukrainian brigades in the front lines capable of attacking, but attacks are contining. |
| Blutarski | 06 Jul 2023 10:47 a.m. PST |
Cuprum wrote -
I do not see any signs of heavy losses allegedly suffered by the Russian army. It is clear to me that you are not following our impeccably honest and accurate Western media …… ;-) B |
| Blutarski | 06 Jul 2023 10:53 a.m. PST |
Based on these two statements, there are no Ukrainian brigades in the front lines capable of attacking, but attacks are continuing. The two cases are not mutually exclusive if such formations are under the command of a ruthless or desperate leadership.
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| williamb | 06 Jul 2023 1:14 p.m. PST |
Blutarski, I probably should have worded that a bit differently. Cuprum2's post (post #6 from the top) were that "half the brigades prepared for the offensive are no longer combat-ready", even though less than half had been committed. The others have been held in reserve. So, if (less than) half have been committed and they are no longer effective while the others are in reserve and have not engaged in combat. This would result in there no longer being any brigades on the front lines that had been prepared for the offensive that were capable of attacking. Yet, those brigades are continuing the offensive. Then when asked to provide a reliable source for his statement he denied that he had made such a statement. |
Legion 4  | 06 Jul 2023 3:35 p.m. PST |
Bill +1 IMO, if the Ukraine is not successful it will be because the USA did not send lethal assets early last year and in large enough numbers to push the "Fascists" Russians off their land. And will probably only lead to the Russians trying to expand their borders. Which will only be stopped by NATO in much of the NATO members' nations that border Russia. NATO has to go back to their original mission of defending against "Red/Communist" Russian Threat … Just like the PRC/CCP the Russian Threat never really left after the Cold War … |
| Cuprum2 | 06 Jul 2023 8:49 p.m. PST |
williamb, of course I don't have any official data. I proceed from the information published by participants in the events on both sides. Until yesterday, it was clear that the intensity of the fighting has decreased, and Ukrainian troops are attacking Russian positions in small groups with almost no escort of combat vehicles. The natural conclusion – they ran out of steam. In addition, I have reason to think that the Ukrainians have lost their mine-clearing equipment and simply can no longer attack with equipment through vast minefields. Do you have any other information? So please share :) By the way, yesterday the intensity of the fighting intensified. Now both sides are attacking. But still – with small forces (groups of 10-30 people – a typical trench warfare in the style of the First World War). Editor in Chief Bill, Both sides of the conflict are trying to evacuate all civilians from the line of contact. It's completely natural in my opinion. To understand where the settlements are – just overlay the map of the combat area on the map of the "relief" of the area – a lot will become clearer. If the Russians are shelling Ukrainian positions with "Grads" and similar systems, then it is difficult to expect sniper accuracy – this is a weapon of destruction in areas. Blutarski I read Western and Ukrainian sources. Everyone lies, including Russians. But I also watch the messages of soldiers and bloggers from both fronts (fortunately, almost everyone speaks the same language, although understanding Ukrainian is not a problem). Here they are – not propaganda and they say what they see. It helps a lot to understand what is happening in reality. Legion 4, the Russians are always a threat… Since the 17th century for sure. And that rhetoric rarely waned. However, just like other big powers. Just look at the problem from the "opposite side"))) Over the past few decades, inter-European strife has weakened somewhat, but there is a big crisis ahead (economic and, accordingly, political) and we will look at "European solidarity" in action. I think this "Second USSR" will crumble in the same way as the first))) And even a scarecrow in the form of the usual "Russian threat" will not save the situation))) |
| Tango01 | 06 Jul 2023 10:50 p.m. PST |
Asking for sources… Many assumed average Russians would sour on war in Ukraine. That hasn't happened link
Desperate Putin strategy failing… link
Russia Has Lost Half Its Combat Capability in Ukraine link See when Russian soldiers surrendered link
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| Cuprum2 | 07 Jul 2023 6:54 a.m. PST |
The first article is quite objective. I myself am not a supporter of Putin, and I do not consider it right to start a war last year. This had to be done in 2014, by returning the legally elected president to his place – and then the army and other law enforcement agencies would be on the side of the legitimate government. Then Putin showed himself to be a short-sighted politician. But the war is already underway, and the results of Russia's defeat in this war may very likely lead to the disintegration of Russia. This does not suit me absolutely, so now this war must be waged until the final victory of one of the parties. As for the sanctions, I'm happy with them. This has already caused structural changes in the Russian economy and there is a noticeable revival of domestic production in Russia. There is also a desire in many countries to abandon the economic dominance of the West and undermine the policy of neo-colonialism. Thanks to the West for the sanctions – you yourself blew up the world that you built! As for the rest of the articles, this is the same verbiage as from the Russian "experts". There are no facts worthy of attention – only spells))) I don't watch interrogations of prisoners of war on principle. A man under pressure can say anything to save his life. His words, without providing other evidence, are informational garbage. There are always prisoners in war. Yesterday another exchange of prisoners took place: 45 Ukrainians were exchanged for 45 Russians… So what? Here is a recent video from Russian soldiers when they captured Ukrainians a week ago. It is difficult to find such a video on YouTube – it is quickly deleted or "hidden" from viewing but there is a lot of this in telegram channels: YouTube link |
| williamb | 07 Jul 2023 7:17 a.m. PST |
While there are all kinds of claims by both sides, the FaceBook site that I post news from attempts to post only verified news from multiple sources. There were recent claims from Ukrainian sources that chemical weapons had been used against them, but this site noted that the effects were not consistent with that. Latest news posting: Top Stories -- US to send cluster munitions to Ukraine Military -- US to send cluster munitions to Ukraine in next aid package, likely including 100,000 DPICMS rounds. -- Cluster munitions launch smaller bomblets to hit many targets -- DPICMS is a 155mm Artillery shell that launches around 72 bomblets (a mix of anti-armor and anti-personnel bomblets) to the target. -- Around 100 countries ban cluster munitions, however the US, Russia, and Ukraine have not banned them, and both Ukraine and Russia have used cluster munitions in the Invasion. -- Russia attempted to carry out a SVBIED attack (a MT-LB loaded with explosives) but it denoted early. -- Heavy fighting in the south, Russian media notes that many Ukrainian units are still not deployed in the offensive. -- Lviv hit in a early morning rocket attack, hitting a apartment building, killing 4 people. -- Third day in a row that Makiivka hit by Ukrainian attacks -- In Bakhmut, both sides are being quiet, but it clear that Ukraine is forcing Russia back, it is likely that Klishchiivka has been abandoned by Russia. Other -- Zelenskyy visits the Czech Republic -- Zelenskyy to visit Turkey tomorrow to discuss the continuation of the black sea grain deal. -- 45 Ukrainian POWs returned to Ukraine -- Two children also returned -- You may recall that Putin and others are facing war crime arrest warrants for stealing children. -- Ukraine after the war plans to eliminate conscription and go to a all professional army. -- Finland to send its 17th package of aid to Ukraine, it will be worth around 105 million Euros, however what is in the package is secret. -- Finland has sent about 1.2 billion in aid total. -- Sweden bid to join NATO is now likely to clear it last major roadblocks. |
Legion 4  | 07 Jul 2023 8:40 a.m. PST |
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| Cuprum2 | 07 Jul 2023 8:54 a.m. PST |
Yes, all of this, in general, corresponds to what I believe to be reliable. According to Russian information, another half of the Ukrainian troops prepared for the offensive have not yet entered the battle. As far as I can tell, a residential building in Lvov is hit by a downed rocket or a missed anti-aircraft missile. The target for the strike (can be judged by the rest of the missiles that reached the target) was the Yavoriv military training ground near Lviv, where Ukrainian troops and foreign military equipment arriving from abroad are stationed. Kleshchevka is under Russian control, judging by the reports of Russian paratroopers from the trenches. But there are intense battles going on. Let's wait for more reliable confirmation. I wrote about the exchange of prisoners of war above. Putin is not in the zone of jurisdiction of this court, moreover, he has immunity as head of state. These judges can roll all these arrest warrants into a tube and shove them into that place of the body where it is always dark and smells bad))) I'm not sure that after the public burning of the Koran with the knowledge of the Swedish authorities, Erdogan will agree to Sweden's entry into NATO. |
| Cuprum2 | 07 Jul 2023 5:16 p.m. PST |
As of this morning, Kleshchevka is still under the control of Russian troops. And by the way, the transfer of cluster munitions has an elementary reason – the depletion of stocks of other munitions. I do not think that this will somehow affect the situation at the front, since such ammunition was used by both sides of the conflict before. The Russians also received an unexploded Storm Shadow missile in excellent condition. The missile is not new, but its study will provide new opportunities to combat Western weapons. Iran has launched production of an analogue of the American Javelin, thanks in part to Ukrainian trophies provided by Russia. Soon – in service with the Russian army. |
| Tango01 | 07 Jul 2023 9:52 p.m. PST |
Wagner Group shooting down a Russian command plane may be gift that keeps on giving for Ukraine's beleaguered air defenses link Russia Risks Degraded Troops Amid Lack of Combat-Ready Reserves: ISW
link Six lessons of Prigozhin's revolt
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| williamb | 08 Jul 2023 9:36 a.m. PST |
Heads of state can be and have been tried for war crimes and crimes against humanity. Of course, as long as Putin hides in Russia, dies, and is not overthrown by a coup that sends him to the court he will not be tried by the international court. link There is a warrant for his arrest. So if he goes to a country that will honor that warrant he will be arrested and deported for trial. link |
Legion 4  | 08 Jul 2023 2:55 p.m. PST |
the depletion of stocks of other munitions. If we have learned anything modern conventional warfare uses up a lot of ammo, equipment, etc. We had talked about this if the Russians/WP crossed the IGB during the Cold War. With the expected tempo of that combat assets would be rapidly used up. Iran has launched production of an analogue of the American Javelin, May have to call in the Mossad. They don't want Iran giving those to Shia militias, Hezbollah, etc., either. williamb +1
Putin and some of his GENs, etc. will literally get away with murder. Even if charged with War Crimes. As long as they stay in their own nation or some of their BFFs. E.g. China, Iran, etc. Just like Xi and the CCP, with COVID … they got away with murder as well. |
| Tango01 | 08 Jul 2023 3:33 p.m. PST |
My contacts with the CIA… send me information about our friend Cuprum 2… they have managed to take a photo of him at his home on Sovietskaya street where he currently lives… he can be seen in the morning doing his exercises with weights on the balcony of his nice house… while meditating on his upcoming TMP messages about the real situation on the front lines.
As we listen on his phone… we learn that he begins to wonder what it would look like if a country the size of France or Germany decided to invade Austria… by surprise and without warning with all their military might… and after being kicked in the …… in the most embarrassing way… now they will take refuge on the defensive in extensive trenches pondering to the extreme that this ferocious enemy barely makes some progress even without possessing air, naval or Army superiority…
Questions that should soon be set aside in view of the danger of being considered an "Enemy of the State" and ending up with his bones in Siberia or suffering some kind of unfortunate accident…
I hope you take this with good humor (smile) Armand
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Legion 4  | 08 Jul 2023 4:00 p.m. PST |
I love it ! Whose the dame on the roof !? 😁😎 |
| Tango01 | 08 Jul 2023 4:32 p.m. PST |
His fiancee…. (smile) He don't know yet… but she is planning to run away to Argentina…
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| Tango01 | 08 Jul 2023 10:11 p.m. PST |
By the way…. maybe another "lie"? Morale: Protests from Wives and Mothers link Armand
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| Cuprum2 | 09 Jul 2023 12:57 a.m. PST |
If you are discussing the personality of the opponent, and not the subject of the dispute, then you simply have nothing more to say))) It is very easy to send me to Siberia – I was born here and I live here most of my life))) Lovely edge. Armand, where are the protests? How can they be seen? So far I see only empty and unsubstantiated words. It's called "propaganda"))) And here is a photo from the window of my apartment right now. And yes, I love exercises with dumbbells))
Find ten differences))) And here's a photo of my wife. I made it myself about ten years ago. We traveled the world after we got married. Maybe someone can even guess where it was made))) We have not been to Argentina. But in any case, there is no place better than Russia. At least for those who were born here)))
You can envy – she is smart and beautiful))) |
Legion 4  | 09 Jul 2023 12:26 p.m. PST |
Well … she is way too pretty for ya !!! 🤩 She may have married you for your $ comrade ! 😏😁😎 |
| Tango01 | 09 Jul 2023 3:18 p.m. PST |
Thanks for your humor… (smile) And of course… congratulations for your wife… looks like a lovely person… About the "protests"… better we talk about them in other occation… Armand |
| Cuprum2 | 09 Jul 2023 6:52 p.m. PST |
Unfortunately, I cannot call myself a rich person))) I would say that I have an average income. However, I try to strike a balance between making money and having an interesting life. Life is one and spending it only on generating income is stupid – the coffin has no pockets for money))) The photo was taken in Vicksburg, Mississippi |
| Pendekar | 09 Jul 2023 10:08 p.m. PST |
The view from your apartment is nice. The park in the distance looks nice as well, especially when snowing in the winter. If there was no conflict in the world it would probably be a nice place to visit. The pictures of litter in the park seem to show that it is not considered normal, which I wish was more true here. Also, it is great that the Prighozin's recent gentle complaint is not causing issues in Russia. It shows that Putin can easily end the war without problems as the Russian government is stronger than ever. Just order the troops back home and declare victory. Any attempt to say that the war is existential for Putin or Russia is clearly propaganda. Even better for Russia if they get to keep their economy strengthening sanctions… |
| Cuprum2 | 10 Jul 2023 2:31 a.m. PST |
The fenced area next to my house is not a park. This is a building plot. There will be a multi-storey car park. But while the contractor for some reason stopped work. Good location but too many cars. I hope the construction of the parking lot will resume soon. It's a pity that you can't see it from my window, but on the other side of my house there is a small natural lake in which there are fish and ducks. There is a small corner of absolutely untouched nature right in the middle of the city. To stop the war – does it mean leaving a large hostile state at its borders, which will unequivocally enter into a hostile military alliance? Force people who have lived in Crimea and Donbas for many generations to flee forever from their homes? It is hardly possible. There is no room left for political decisions. |
| Pendekar | 10 Jul 2023 3:35 a.m. PST |
I meant the park down the street… where the trees are. Though those trees seen are not in the park maybe, but across the road. Yes, I noticed the lake as well, there seem to be paths, but It was not labeled as a park, though it is probably the same park, just separated by the road? As you say, a nice greenery area in the city.. I do envy that part. Finland, Latvia and Estonia will still be on the border as members of NATO. Never planning to Attack Russia. If Ukraine was left, there also would be no attack, particularly if they joined NATO. It would be the best defense for Moscow.
Force people who have lived in Crimea and Donbas for many generations to flee forever from their homes? As was done starting in 2014, until now? If you mean those who moved there and happily took over other's homes, that is another story. |
| Cuprum2 | 10 Jul 2023 4:44 a.m. PST |
You see, all these assurances "they will never attack Russia" are just empty words. Today someone thinks so, and after a while – differently. The best defense is a buffer of friendly or neutral states. Why did the West openly and officially support a coup in Ukraine led by anti-Russian forces (including outright Nazis)? What for? The West supported the anti-Russian forces, Russia supported the anti-Western ones. As for who came to these lands and who did not – here is a clearly biased Wikipedia article. But even she gives an idea of the state of affairs in this matter. It is strange that the article does not even mention that large territories of Donbass and the Luhansk region since the 16th century are the territories of the Don Cossack Host, where Don Cossacks lived, who never considered themselves Ukrainians. So they won't go anywhere. They will fight for their home. link
And you also need to consider that a Ukrainian does not mean "Ukrainian nationalist". Among Ukrainians, there are many supporters of the creation in one form or another of a large Russian union. More than five and a half million ethnic Ukrainians live in Russia. |
Legion 4  | 10 Jul 2023 6:21 a.m. PST |
Unfortunately, I cannot call myself a rich person))) I'm there with you comrade ! 🙁 The photo was taken in Vicksburg, Mississippi Great campaign to study ! How did you find the Southern cuisine ? |
| Pendekar | 10 Jul 2023 7:01 a.m. PST |
You see, all these assurances "they will never attack Russia" are just empty words. Really? The empty words were when Russia said it respects Ukraine's sovereignty. When it was not responsible for the little green men. When it would not Attack Ukraine in February of last year. Why are we (the West) having to send so much military hardware to Ukraine? The country we supposedly packed full of weapons to prepare for an invasion of Russia? Why is Poland going through a huge rearmament program now? Why is Germany finding out how unprepared their military is? Why are NATO countries suddenly increasing their military budgets to meet the recommended levels? Is it because we were getting ready to drag Putin by the nose to force him to attack Ukraine? How did the US force hundreds of thousands of protesters to rise up above their government? You keep saying that the US openly created a coup in Ukraine. You are speaking as if the people of Ukraine had no voice, no ability to think for themselves. The two lawful democratic elections that have happened since then, which were accepted by Russia as well as the world give evidence against this. Did the US provide support and try to help with support after the revolution, yes. Should Russia have helped their brothers as well to make sure a stable government was formed and any troubles would be resolved quickly? Sure. Instead they sent soldiers to take control of Crimea. Then sent soldiers to start an armed rebellion in the East. These are openly talked about by those that were responsible. Good job in working towards having friendly states as a buffer. Before Russian soldiers started armed revolts there was no genocide. Why does it matter that there are people of Ukrainian descent in Russia? They live in Russia, if they are happy there then there is no issue. There are over 1.3 million people Ukrainian descent in Canada, does that mean that Ukraine should join with Canada? Countries around Russia are hostile towards Russia because of the way they are treated by Russia. Consider that. Consider why Latvia is in NATO. Were they conquered by the US? by NATO? I know you will not be convinced by what I say. Think on it if you wish. Ignore it if you wish. Take a walk in the park and enjoy your beautiful park in your city. Enjoy your peaceful city while your "brothers" are having their towns bombed and destroyed. |
| Tango01 | 10 Jul 2023 3:44 p.m. PST |
Pendekar + 1 So, I have to understand that if in Bielorussia Aleksandr Lukashenko fail because people vote against him and choise another citizen which Russia considered a Nazy or Pro Nato for sure it would be invaded?…
Armand |
| Pendekar | 10 Jul 2023 4:33 p.m. PST |
Well I have not seen Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya called a Nazi by anyone, but it seems that if someone else is elected the results can just be changed to keep Lukashenko in power, and Russia can help to support the fight against protestors… Or maybe Lukashenko really did win fairly… |