UshCha | 24 Jun 2023 7:10 a.m. PST |
It's 27 degrees outside now and won't get much less tonight again. That means the man cave is just too hot to play in, disaster! I'm missing a game a week! The club venue being on the ground floor is just bearable. What happend to nice 20 degree summers of the past. Global warming must stop, it's ruining wargaming. |
robert piepenbrink  | 24 Jun 2023 7:18 a.m. PST |
That's somewhat cooler than it is today in Indiana, UshCha--and it's cooler here this week than it often is this time of year. Miniature wargaming is possible under such conditions. |
14Bore | 24 Jun 2023 7:39 a.m. PST |
Funny that it wasn't that way in 1979, the European Without Summer, barely got to 80 any day and had field jacket with me every day |
JimDuncanUK | 24 Jun 2023 8:43 a.m. PST |
Over the last winter my hobby hut was too cold to permit figure painting or game playing without a heater on and the electricity cost was about £5.00 GBP per day. Over the last couple of weeks it has been unpleasantly hot but just about bearable with the door wide open and an extractor fan going full belt. You just can't win. |
14Bore | 24 Jun 2023 9:08 a.m. PST |
Remember some decades later Wimbledon was held up it was 100 degrees and wondered where they were playing on the equator |
Grattan54  | 24 Jun 2023 9:47 a.m. PST |
We have had, overall, a mild summer here in Wisconsin. What we really need is rain! |
nudspinespittle  | 24 Jun 2023 10:09 a.m. PST |
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robert piepenbrink  | 24 Jun 2023 10:12 a.m. PST |
Centigrade, Renfield. Take the UshCha number times 1.8 and add it to 32 to get Farenheit. He's running about 80 or 81 degrees as Americans measure. I think we've had one day here cooler than that this week. And English winters are so warm I've seen pipes run on the outside of buildings. Britain is blessed with a very mild climate. Look up "degree days" for various locations some time. |
bobspruster  | 24 Jun 2023 11:34 a.m. PST |
Another very soggy June here in Maine. I think April occurs in June now. |
robert piepenbrink  | 24 Jun 2023 1:24 p.m. PST |
I understood the Maine seasons to be Winter, Still Winter and Road Maintenance, bobspruster? Does bein immune to irony mean my shirts are always wrinkled, Renfield? More seriously, deliberate misunderstanding is not irony. And there's so much real misunderstanding going around these days the false variety is hard to sort out. Irony involves insincerity, which is different--though I'll grant you still pretty common these days. |
14Bore | 24 Jun 2023 1:27 p.m. PST |
Not a month after I got to England we had a 3 foot snowstorm , I think that was worse but snowed a few times that year and as said 1979 there was no summer |
14Bore | 24 Jun 2023 1:27 p.m. PST |
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Zephyr1 | 24 Jun 2023 2:20 p.m. PST |
Only 81f/27c? That's the temp I have my AC set to here in FL. Heat's okay, it's humidity that makes things miserable… |
Gear Pilot | 24 Jun 2023 2:37 p.m. PST |
It was 105F this past Monday in San Antonio. Went all the way down to 94F on Thursday. Back up to 100F today. No, it's not a dry heat either, but not FL humid at least. It was 80F at 0600 going to work on Tuesday morning and 80% RH. That truly sucked. |
bobspruster  | 24 Jun 2023 5:31 p.m. PST |
Maine seasons? Not really. 9 months of winter, 3 months of tough sledding. |
robert piepenbrink  | 24 Jun 2023 5:40 p.m. PST |
"Heat's okay, it's humidity that makes things miserable." Yeah, yeah. They told us that at Fort Huachuca where they issued everyone two canteens and told us we'd turn into raisins if we got lost in the mountains. Becoming an extra in a Brendan Frasier movie was never a career goal with me. |
myxemail  | 24 Jun 2023 6:29 p.m. PST |
Bob, you're being awfully kind about Maine winters. Or summers. Robert, here in Maine we actually have two seasons: Winter, and the Fourth of July. Bob, hopefully I will see you soon at the restaurant Mike |
Bunkermeister | 24 Jun 2023 8:12 p.m. PST |
Fort Huachuca Fort We Gotcha. So humid and hot the swamp coolers don't do anything. Mike Bunkermeister Creek |
cherrypicker | 25 Jun 2023 3:43 a.m. PST |
We call that winter in Australia |
UshCha | 25 Jun 2023 4:28 a.m. PST |
30.4 deg C. Hotter than hell, cowering inside, macave unuseable again! As a Kit it was realy ever much over 25 deg C in summer. My mun said she would not swim in the sea on holiday unless it was over 80F. Never saw mum swim in the sea! Times Change. Still some breeze so it's not a bad as it could be. It looks like tomorrow will be 20 deg C, proably need ac Down Jacket as it will feel like winter, Brits are never happy with the weather! 14Bore I wish I could give you mine! |
Von Trinkenessen | 25 Jun 2023 7:31 a.m. PST |
I do think some of the temperature thing is down to where you have your mancave. Most houses in UK do not have cellars ( saying that I spent my teenage and early twenties in a house as old as America, with two floors of cellars , horsehair plaster and thick walls). A lot of uk mancaves are:- wooden garden sheds ( the shedmen), spare bedrooms ,loft/attic conversions at the top of the house,poorly insulated and ventilated together with no aircon ( what is aircon?????). Also having a change in our weather- UK Warming, different era build qualities and priorities does not help. |
Arjuna | 25 Jun 2023 7:39 a.m. PST |
A cold-blooded bathtub campaign is clearly the only option. I seem to remember in some Ancients flic there was a scene with model galleys in a swimming pool, Quo Vadis, Spartacus, Cleopatra, Caligula, Mel Brooks' History of the World, Part One? :) |
Frederick  | 25 Jun 2023 9:26 a.m. PST |
My painting room is on the second floor of our old farmhouse -triple brick so fairly cool even in summer and tolerably warm in the winter; we game in the big ole dining room which is heated/airconditioned so pretty immune to outside temperature; in the summer we game in the big shed outside |
Cerdic | 25 Jun 2023 11:42 a.m. PST |
Hot weather in Britain always feels worse than the simple temperature reading would suggest. We are a small island so the humidity is high. Our buildings are designed to keep heat in because most of the time it's cold and damp. Nobody has aircon, again, because most of the time it's cold and damp… |
Oberlindes Sol LIC  | 25 Jun 2023 11:52 a.m. PST |
We just dream about getting as warm as 80F at my home, next to the San Francisco Bay with the Pacific Ocean to the west. And my ground-floor condo is always cool enough to need a sweatshirt. Luckily, most of our gaming takes place in warmer parts of the Bay Area. |
robert piepenbrink  | 25 Jun 2023 1:54 p.m. PST |
No doubt you're right, bobstruster. My informant was from hot, jungle-like Connecticut. Points taken, Cerdic, von Trinkenessen. But I grew up in pre-air conditioning Indiana, and try to limit my use even now. (And believe me, Indiana doesn't lack for humidity--except when you could really use some rain.) The range UshCha describes is about 10 degrees Farenheit/5 degrees Centigrade below the point at which we moderated even outdoor activities, though people did start thinking of exhaust fans before AC became so common. It's a range a hardy miniatures player can adapt to, though UshCha may want to look at improved ventilation going forward. And I envy you that second level of cellar. I haven't had that much overburden since I left the Pentagon's basement--which was about 50-60' below grade so nearly as we could tell. |
BrockLanders | 25 Jun 2023 2:24 p.m. PST |
So, 81 degrees is considered "hot" in England? It's 84 today here in Chicago and I was marveling earlier how good it feels after the previous week we had. |
Ryan T | 25 Jun 2023 7:14 p.m. PST |
So far in south-east Manitoba this year has been a warm one. We hit 36C / 97F a week ago and the winter low was only -33C / -28F. That's an improvement over last year when the low was -36C / -33F in early January and the high was 37C / 99F in mid-June. And not to mention the snow that was still on the ground in late April. |
Martin Rapier | 25 Jun 2023 11:35 p.m. PST |
It all depends what you are used to, but as Cerdic says, most of our housing stock is designed to turn into uninhabitable furnaces in summer. The Victorians thought that was a good idea, back in the nineteenth century cool point. It is cool and wet most of the time, so for much of the year it doesn't matter. We are on the same latitude as Newfoundland. |
Choctaw | 26 Jun 2023 6:53 a.m. PST |
In my part of Texas today it will be 99 with a heat index of 110. I'm ready for November. |
mildbill | 26 Jun 2023 8:26 a.m. PST |
Can you prime, or is it too humid? Find a cool spot in the house/apt and finnish those figures! :) Paint on gesso for primer if it is too humid to spray. |
robert piepenbrink  | 26 Jun 2023 7:40 p.m. PST |
OK, I have to ask. Those of you insisting that thick British walls "keep the heat in:" do you keep one set of thermos bottles for hot liquids and another for cold ones? Thick walls stabilize temperatures, and are very popular in some very hot climates for just that reason. Think adobe walls in the American Southwest. I would, however, not recommend indulging in home casting in the hot weather, and you may want to use microwaves more and ovens less. It's also not unheard of to open windows in the cool of the evening, and to close them in the morning as the temperature rises. I do miss my basement. But my seriously insulated walls are not a problem in hot weather. |
robert piepenbrink  | 29 Jun 2023 4:08 a.m. PST |
I checked the 10-day forecast this morning out of curiosity. Every day has a high 2-6 degrees centigrade above UshCha's "too hot to wargame" point. The wargaming will continue. |
etotheipi  | 29 Jun 2023 1:47 p.m. PST |
I wonder if Canadian wildfire hazardous air quality ( link ) will screw up spray paint priming. |
robert piepenbrink  | 02 Jul 2023 10:52 a.m. PST |
So far, not here, eto. We've had some air quality warnings, but final matte coats have been OK, which I regard as the acid test. |