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Deucey Supporting Member of TMP11 Jun 2023 8:29 a.m. PST

That's what the banner implies.

FourDJones11 Jun 2023 8:50 a.m. PST

Why not? It had to be some day.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP11 Jun 2023 9:15 a.m. PST

"As for the exact day Ephorus gives 23/24 Thargelion (May 6 or 7), Hellanicus 12 Thargelion (May 26) while others give the 23rd of Sciroforion (July 7) or the 23rd of Ponamos (October 7)."--Wikipedia, but it's trustworthy for this sort of thing.

So no classical author opted for 11 June, but it's not as though there was a consensus. Of the dates offered, I'd go for October 7. That gets you into bad sailing weather in the Med, and mostly the Greeks seem to have had rough return voyages.

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP11 Jun 2023 12:11 p.m. PST

Thank you Robert P.

You have gone above and beyond.

From this day forward, October 7!

advocate12 Jun 2023 4:58 a.m. PST

Old or New System ;)

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP12 Jun 2023 10:08 a.m. PST

Greek calendars bear little resemblance to time-tracking concerns as we know them, and direct correlation of any event with our current calendar is not possible.

Each state maintained their own calendar, which were theoretically on the same sort of system, but were unlikely to even line up with each other on any given month or year.

They are lunar based, and each month allegedly starts on the first sighting of the crescent moon each month. So none of them line up directly with our months to start with.

We have the most information on how Athens ran theirs. The elected Archon was responsible for maintaining the calendar and could add duplicate days as needed, and cut the month short as needed/desired to start the net one, and add a 13th month when it seemed like they ought to sink up with the solar year.

Major civic rituals had to be held on specific days. So if a ritual that was supposed to be held on the 10th had to be delayed for any reason, then the Archon could add any number of extra days of the 9th to make sure the festival was held on time.

But those additions would only take place in the state that was adjusting their calendar. Each one would be running their own and hence they don't even synch with each other.

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