jeeves | 14 May 2023 5:25 a.m. PST |
In 2023, what would you use for rules for the various Poland Russia (and maybe Sweden) conflicts? |
Whirlwind ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 14 May 2023 6:49 a.m. PST |
Twilight of Divine Right: With Fire & Sword link |
marshalney2000 | 14 May 2023 8:02 a.m. PST |
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Royston Papworth | 14 May 2023 8:29 a.m. PST |
Off the top of my head, DBR (still a good game) Pike & Shotte Baroque |
advocate ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 14 May 2023 8:54 a.m. PST |
I'm with Whirlwind on this one. Excellent scenarios available too. |
Khazarmac | 14 May 2023 12:30 p.m. PST |
Field of Glory Renaissance. Still an excellent set of rules. |
Jcfrog | 14 May 2023 2:26 p.m. PST |
A few 1000 men, By Fire and Sword (Polish after all). Big battles Twilight of the Divine Right. |
Munster | 14 May 2023 3:38 p.m. PST |
Now that twilight website is confusing, in terms of what is in a bundle, and what is needed to play. As such it puts me off investigating the rules, let alone spending money to look at it |
Whirlwind ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 14 May 2023 11:04 p.m. PST |
Now that twilight website is confusing, in terms of what is in a bundle, and what is needed to play. As such it puts me off investigating the rules, let alone spending money to look at it The bundle is the 'Twilight of Divine Right' plus 'Fire & Sword' (at the bottom of the page). That is what you need to play. The scenario books are separate, and you can by 'Fire & Sword' separately (if you already have 'Twilight of Divine Right' |
GamesPoet ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 15 May 2023 2:56 a.m. PST |
By Fire & Sword. Pikeman's Lament. However, in Miniature Wargames of Dec 2021 (issue #464), there is an article starting on page 18 that provides a set of home brew rules that I'd like to try out at some point. The author didn't share a name for them, although perhaps the article's name could be such … "The Eastern Front". Helion has good resource material for the era, and some is provided as part of the "By Fire & Sword" publications. 28mm Figures are available from 1st Corp, Foundry, The Assault Group, Warlord, perhaps others. |
jeeves | 15 May 2023 3:54 a.m. PST |
No legal PDFs of any of these rules, or am I missing something? |
GamesPoet ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 15 May 2023 6:19 a.m. PST |
By Fire & Sword is coming out with a 2nd edition of their rules. There was a kickstarter that recently ended on May 11th, and very disappointed that I missed it. However, they did have downloadable PDFs of the 2nd edition Beta version, as well as the Playbook, and Army Book 1 containing Polish/Lithuania, Sweden, Norway-Denmark, Prussia, and Mercenary Forces (suspect Book 2 will have Cossacks, Moscovites, Ottomans, and Tartars). Here is a link … link Osprey provides a downloadable PDF verison of Pikeman's Lament for purchase, and here is a link … link Also, to the best of my knowledge, there's no PDF of the home brew rules mentioned above, although these are very brief, and perhaps there's a back issue of the magazine that they were printed in still available somewhere. |
PandSSociety | 15 May 2023 6:35 a.m. PST |
The supplement for 'Eastern Battles' for the Twilight of Divine Right rules and 3 scenario books are available as PDF's – link |
GamesPoet ![Supporting Member of TMP Supporting Member of TMP](boards/icons/sp.gif) | 15 May 2023 10:41 a.m. PST |
Have played "Twilight of the Soldier Kings", and it seemed very well done. Imagining that "Twilight of Devine Right" could be similar. Thanks for the posting of the site! |
jefritrout | 15 May 2023 1:31 p.m. PST |
I'm a By Fire and Sword Fan. |
Alasdair2204 | 01 Jun 2023 11:26 a.m. PST |
Renatio et Gloriam, 400+ wargame lists cover this period with lots of different lists and these are just a few 83 Tatar Khanates 1600 – 1721 84 Crimean Khanate 1600 – 1721 85 Ukrainian Cossack 1600 – 1647 86 Carpathian Principalities 1600 – 1721 87 Commonwealth of Poland–Lithuania (Golden Age) 1610 – 1629 88 Romanov Russia (Aleksey) 1630 – 1660 89 Commonwealth of Poland–Lithuania 1630 – 1652 90 Circassia 1630 – 1721 91 Ukrainian Cossack Hetmanate (The Ruin) 1648 – 1721 92 Khmelnytsky Uprising 1648 – 1657 93 Commonwealth of Poland–Lithuania (Deluge) 1653 – 1699 94 Romanov Russia (Alexis, Feodor III & Peter I) 1661 – 1699 |