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Robert Burke27 Apr 2023 12:52 p.m. PST

Did the line Zouaves (not the Guard) wear a turban or a fez in the Crimean War? So far, the information I've found would seem to indicate both.

I'm wondering if one is the dress uniform and the other was worn in the field? If so, which one was which?

Any information would be appreciated. Thanks.

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP27 Apr 2023 2:32 p.m. PST

I have seen contemporary illustrations of both but also with them wearing the kepi or similar cap, which I believe was an acceptable alternative for camp/off duty wear.

William Warner27 Apr 2023 2:36 p.m. PST

Roger Fenton's photographs of the Crimea show them wearing the fez.

Robert Burke27 Apr 2023 2:57 p.m. PST

I've also seen photos them wearing the turban. Hence my confusion.

Personal logo Nashville Supporting Member of TMP27 Apr 2023 2:57 p.m. PST

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both

Personal logo Nashville Supporting Member of TMP27 Apr 2023 2:58 p.m. PST

zouave officers link

Robert Burke27 Apr 2023 3:22 p.m. PST

I believe that the officers wore a kepi.

Robert Burke27 Apr 2023 4:27 p.m. PST

In a related question, did Zouave battalions have drummers or buglers?

William Warner27 Apr 2023 5:14 p.m. PST

Perhaps they wore the turban in winter and the fez in summer?

steve dubgworth28 Apr 2023 11:24 a.m. PST

i always saw the fez and turban as linked attire, the fez had the turban wrapped around it.

the pictures with the turban seen to have something covering the crown of the head.

again are not drummers also carrying a bugle I always thought they did as the drum is a cumbersome way of communication inbattle but the bugle is clearer and quicker.

huevans01117 Aug 2023 3:31 p.m. PST

In a related question, did Zouave battalions have drummers or buglers?

Pretty sure, buglers. They were considered legere.

huevans01117 Aug 2023 3:34 p.m. PST

i always saw the fez and turban as linked attire, the fez had the turban wrapped around it.

the pictures with the turban seen to have something covering the crown of the head.

The turban appears to have been optional, except perhaps for full dress and was just wrapped around the fez.

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