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ferg98108 Apr 2023 1:11 p.m. PST

Evening all,

I recently picked up a pack of the new army painter speed paints to give them a try on my Napoleonics!

In all, not bad – did the job – you can read more and see the finished result on my blog post below

link

Kind Regards

J

La Belle Ruffian08 Apr 2023 3:11 p.m. PST

Thanks very much for the post – I've been debating whether to investigate these as I have a couple of sets' worth of Battle Master miniatures to work through.

myxemail08 Apr 2023 3:25 p.m. PST

Thank you for the good review. Your photos are clear and show the minis enlarged vs normal viewing. I think that the Speed Paints do a good job of getting the figures to table top standard quickly. I will be doing the same soon to 1/72 WW II infantry.
It looks as though that Speed Paints are great for most of the parts on the figure. It looks like I will still be using regular paints for some details, as well as metallics

raylev308 Apr 2023 7:16 p.m. PST

great overview…

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP08 Apr 2023 8:38 p.m. PST

Why is it faster than any other simple wargaming paint job?

Legionarius08 Apr 2023 8:47 p.m. PST

+1 79th PA. I don't understand why a certain bottle of paint would be faster than another. It's all in how you paint IMHO.

Personal logo Mister Tibbles Supporting Member of TMP09 Apr 2023 6:20 a.m. PST

The paints are really made for 28mm+ figures, where they seem to make some painting faster on modern overly complex sculpts. I've seen many YouTube videos on this.

ferg98109 Apr 2023 9:41 a.m. PST

Hey guys

The pictures you see are just 1 coat of paint, straight out the bottle, and that's it. Any highlighting or shading is done by the paint.

Kind Regards

J

Mark J Wilson17 Apr 2023 2:17 a.m. PST

I realise I'm probably the atheist in the Vatican here, but I don't like the finished result. It looks crude and completely unrealistic. It is exactly the sort of second rate effect I'd get if I tried to do shading on any significant number of figures, which is why I don't bother. I shall be sticking to my unshaded paint technique that has lasted me for 50 years.

Tacitus01 May 2023 6:51 a.m. PST

If those are 15mm, I think it looks great.

Capt Flash01 Jun 2023 3:10 p.m. PST

They look good.
Try black primer and a white overbrush for sharp contrasts

grandown Supporting Member of TMP18 Jun 2023 8:25 p.m. PST

The name of the paint brand is misleading. The method of painting is the key to finishing the project. The result is adequate for the painting of Epic Battle figures which are essentially toys.

I found that I often had to stop to unclog my brushes. I didn't have that issue with acrylics that use a thinner. Plus there is the issue of disposing of empty plastic bottles.

DOUGKL02 Jul 2023 8:42 a.m. PST

Thanks for the information.

All Sir Garnett03 Jul 2023 11:40 p.m. PST

link

And

link

One coat of Contrast over wraithbone and nothing else…

Marc the plastics fan06 Jul 2023 2:34 p.m. PST

Very nice units – do you have a blog with more information please? Like what colour combinations you are using. Thanks

Supreme Littleness Designs08 Jul 2023 2:56 a.m. PST

I tried to speed up my painting of Napoleonics with Citadel's Contrast paints.

Walk through here:

link

Volleyfire08 Jul 2023 6:47 a.m. PST

There is a very interesting article in the latest issue of WS&S comparing the 'Slap Chop' method with contrast paints using Medieval figures as an example. I recommend reading it. I wasn't aware of the SC method although I'd heard of it, found it very educational.

Dolphinless16 Nov 2023 2:21 a.m. PST

I hate the term Slap Chop. I've started using 'grisaille' which seems more grown-up. I've used it for a small batch of 10mm Dutch-Belgians. Black primer, heavy grey dry brush, lighter white dry brush, then the contrast paints.
IMHO, it is faster, but the results are marginal. Would probably have better results on 15mm or larger, or where uniforms aren't quite so exact

Personal logo Sgt Slag Supporting Member of TMP16 Nov 2023 10:47 a.m. PST

YouTuber Wyloch did a video on Speed Paint 2.0. I asked him if he had any experience with The Dip Technique, and if so, how do the two techniques compare.

Wyloch was a heavy Dip'er. I shared that I average 10 minutes per figure, in an assembly line painting technique, start to finish. Wyloch shared that he was able to paint his 28mm (Warhammer 40k) figures averaging 2 minutes per figure.

The Dip Technique is fast, but Speed Paints 2.0 are 5x faster! That is impressive.

Wyloch further commented that the results produced by Speed Paints 2.0 were superior to what is produced by block painting followed by The Dip Technique… So 5x faster, with better results. The downside is the cost: $100 USD for a full set. I only have around 200 figures left to paint. I have 1,000+ painted miniatures, all Dip'ed. I don't want to invest the money, nor do I want my last figures to be radically different from the super-majority of my finished miniatures. Otherwise, I believe Speed Paints 2.0 are likely one of the most significant improvements in figure painting for a long while

They are not for people who want competition level painting, rather they are for those who want tabletop quality, or, "Good enough to game with," at arm's length. These are specifically for people who want fast painting, at a moderate level of quality, far below the high end level. Cheers!

Personal logo oldbob Supporting Member of TMP24 Feb 2024 12:14 p.m. PST

Supreme; knowing those Austrians are 10mm, that's a nice job you did with them.

von Winterfeldt25 Feb 2024 9:08 a.m. PST

those kind of contrast paints work quite well in my view, they have limitations and may not do always the desired trick, but they can speed up painting miniatures

Here two British units, the first is painted conventionally the second with a lot of contrast paints and some conventional hobby paints, did save a lot of time

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both 18 mm Sho Boki

Personal logo oldbob Supporting Member of TMP13 Mar 2024 8:59 a.m. PST

I got free lessons on using contrast paints when I bought them, still only using them on horses. Von Winterfeldt, very nice brush work.

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