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Escapee Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2023 9:26 a.m. PST

Could be someone who started out in the military or a civilian. Who was the best wartime/military leader?

Glengarry528 Mar 2023 9:36 a.m. PST

James Madison. Well, he was the best for Canada.

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2023 10:12 a.m. PST

Normally I would say Roosevelt. But today I would say Lincoln. He kept this nation together.

Escapee Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2023 10:27 a.m. PST

I am a great admirer of Lincoln, but Roosevelt found great commanders at a time when the whole war was at war. He rallied the whole country.

Lascaris28 Mar 2023 11:13 a.m. PST

I'd also vote for Roosevelt. Both Nimitz and Eisenhower were not obvious choices and they both were outstanding in their jobs. Also making the choice to keep Marshall by his side, rather than letting him have the field command he wanted, was a tough but correct decision.

Fitzovich Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2023 11:33 a.m. PST

FDR, Truman, Lincoln.

Personal logo Old Contemptible Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2023 12:52 p.m. PST

FDR and Lincoln

Personal logo Mister Tibbles Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2023 12:56 p.m. PST

I've always thought Washington for many reasons, but isn't the Commander-in-Chief concept fairly new in our history?

Deucey Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2023 1:13 p.m. PST

Lincoln, FDR, Polk, Washington (in that order).

If I'm only considering Washington WHILE he was president.


And before someone else says it: Bill Pullman (tongue firmly planted in cheek).

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian28 Mar 2023 2:00 p.m. PST

Normally I would say Roosevelt.

Which Roosevelt?

rustymusket28 Mar 2023 2:06 p.m. PST

FDR

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian28 Mar 2023 3:20 p.m. PST

Editor Bill: Yes evil grin

Personal logo McKinstry Supporting Member of TMP Fezian28 Mar 2023 3:23 p.m. PST

FDR and Lincoln. Different wars, great leaders.

Frederick Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2023 3:50 p.m. PST

For me Lincoln first, then FDR

FDR did a great job but had the advantage of fighting a war mostly on someone else's landscape

torokchar Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2023 6:10 p.m. PST

FDR is my vote – allowed his commanders in the field to command! A better and more interesting question would be the worst 45 men have served as president and probably at most 5 have been good commander-in-chief. who was the worst…………..

smithsco28 Mar 2023 6:22 p.m. PST

FDR and Lincoln. As to the earlier post about commander in chief being fairly new, the answer is no. That is a role given to the President in Article II of the Constitution. Washington actively led troops in the field in the role to put down the Whiskey Rebellion in western Pennsylvania. From that time forward no President has led troops in the field but has relied on generals and been the civilian control of the military.

redmist112228 Mar 2023 7:28 p.m. PST

Define best.

P.

Escapee Supporting Member of TMP28 Mar 2023 8:49 p.m. PST

Almost a new topic – what are the qualities of a high functioning CinC?

Good judge of abilities in others and able to delegate effectively
Strategic assessment abilities
Understands production and logistics
Good at PR and morale
Can withstand continuous stress over time

I am sure there are others.

Personal logo StoneMtnMinis Supporting Member of TMP29 Mar 2023 6:20 a.m. PST

Lincoln and then F. Roosevelt in shooting wars.
Reagan in the Cold War, non-shooting.

HansPeterB29 Mar 2023 9:43 a.m. PST

I might have said FDR too, but having just finished a book about he ACW -- Lincoln then FDR.

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP29 Mar 2023 10:13 a.m. PST

Truman for the Cold War.

Personal logo optional field Supporting Member of TMP29 Mar 2023 11:13 a.m. PST

FDR, hands down

Shagnasty Supporting Member of TMP29 Mar 2023 4:30 p.m. PST

I would have to agree with FDR.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP30 Mar 2023 8:13 a.m. PST

Washington; I consider him as counting simply by having won the nation's freedom in the first place.

Lincoln, for recognizing competence when it finally appeared. (Took a while, though.)
Reagan (I very much count the Cold War as a war.)
FDR (though in all other respects he was not as good as his rep.)

Escapee Supporting Member of TMP31 Mar 2023 8:48 p.m. PST

Agree about the Cold War as a war. Reagan's military judgement I am not so sure about. Dealing weapons to Iran, and the Marine deployment to Beirut, which was a leadership disaster, and a boon to terrorism, cost him points. While the Soviets perhaps hastened their own downfall with their long war in Afghanistan. But Reagan kept the pressure up and did not waver, qualities of a good commander.

Personal logo Parzival Supporting Member of TMP31 Mar 2023 9:52 p.m. PST

Even the greatest commanders make mistakes. The difference is how a commander responds to those mistakes. Does he correct the error and alter his policy? Or does he keep doing the same stupid thing while expecting different results?
It's also hard for a civilian commander to know exactly what the conditions of his forces are or the quality of their military leadership until the shooting starts. You might have a McClellan, who looks good and makes his troops look good, but when battle comes is ineffective or even inept. As others have observed, the path to general is often based on politics, not military ability. (Or as I put it, there are two kinds of officers— butt-kickers and butt-kissers. Butt-kickers win wars; butt-kissers get promoted.) And it's not always that easy to know which you've got in place until all Hell breaks loose.

Cattle Dog03 Apr 2023 3:56 a.m. PST

Any President who does not take you to war.
regards
Allan

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP13 Apr 2023 10:25 a.m. PST

FDR and Lincoln. Note that neither one gets a 100% score. Lincoln spent a lot of time in 1861 learning things he might have studied before he applied for the job, and FDR spent eight years in office not doing much to prepare for an increasingly likely conflict. But they learned, picked and supported good people and did much to unite the nation.

Mister Tibbles, read the US Constitution. Of all the hats these guys wear in a year, CinC in one of the very few they're actually supposed to, and always were.

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