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09 Mar 2023 12:56 p.m. PST
by Editor in Chief Bill

  • Changed title from "GHQvehicles vrs H+R" to "GHQ vehicles vrs H+R"

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Joe Legan09 Mar 2023 5:53 a.m. PST

Asked a lot of questions about 6mm figures here on TMP and finally purchased some. Here is a comparison for those interested.
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Cheers

Joe

Robert Johnson09 Mar 2023 6:28 a.m. PST

H&R are 1/300 scale. GHQ are 1/285, so they are larger.

Joe Legan09 Mar 2023 6:44 a.m. PST

Thank you. I thought I pointed that out in the article. I will try to make that more clear next time.
Cheers

Joe

Steamingdave209 Mar 2023 6:59 a.m. PST

Here in UK the Maths are a bit different. 5 GHQ tanks are £13.99 GBP, singles from H+R are £0.85 GBP. I still prefer GHQ though.

Rev Zoom09 Mar 2023 9:25 a.m. PST

I also prefer GHQ. Tried Ros and just was not satisfied with the lack of detail. After dry brushing, it is very apparent. Yes, cost does matter but I don't cover the table with models so more detail is preferable for me.

Micman Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2023 10:29 a.m. PST

I picked up a few H+R for something that GHQ or CnC do not make. Look more like blobs of metal instead of a vehicle.

Their aircraft are not bad though.

BattlerBritain09 Mar 2023 11:59 a.m. PST

I've tried using GHQ where I can and have a huge collection of them but the cost in the last few years has made it eye wateringly expensive.

I tend to use H+R for trucks and APCs.
H+R infantry are good and better sized than GHQs which are more like 10mm.

But the best infantry for me are Adler which are just perfect.

For aircraft I use Raiden where I can, Scotia as a backup.

I tend to use 1/600 scale planes for moderns with Odzial Osmy being really good.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2023 12:52 p.m. PST

I've found both companies to be friendly and cooperative. I'd recommend buying any single piece of equipment from one or the other, though. And don't place a small order from the wrong bank of the Atlantic River. A single large order for everything for at least an army if possible a period helps keep postage and handling manageable.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2023 1:29 p.m. PST

Thanks for posting.

cfielitz09 Mar 2023 2:26 p.m. PST

I think GHQ vehicles are great, but I cannot really justify their cost anymore. Heroics and Ros are not great, but in addition to what Micman said, I use them and Scotia-Grendel models to make conversions.

dantheman09 Mar 2023 2:33 p.m. PST

cfielitz +1

Captain Pete09 Mar 2023 5:05 p.m. PST

I do prefer GHQ to the others at this scale. I like the detail on the GHQ models and having collected GHQ for the last 40 years or so, I have a lot of it. While it is more pricey than the others, to me the difference is worth it.

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP09 Mar 2023 5:59 p.m. PST

GHQ products have always been eye-wateringly expensive. They're just keeping up with inflation better than most.

I've collected most of my micro armor (mixed C-in-C and GHQ) at flea markets. For a long time after FOW made 15mm WWII into the preferred scale, a lot of micro armor collections were going up for sale at bargain prices.

monk2002uk09 Mar 2023 11:36 p.m. PST

Don't forget resin printed vehicles. There is a huge range of free STL files for personal use, covering a wide range of WW1, WW2 and modern vehicles. You can print to any scale to match GHQ or H&R at a fraction of the production cost. The upfront cost of the resin printers is falling all the time.

Here are some Whippets that I printed:

Operating with their 6mm Baccus infantry colleagues:

The really cool thing is creating your own vehicles. Here is a German bridge pontoon on trailer (I didn't create the prime mover but I did modify the STL ;-) ):

Robert

FlyXwire10 Mar 2023 5:58 a.m. PST

Robert, super pics of some nice kit there.

GHQ helped build the WW2 gaming scene in the US here they were readily available, and were stocked on the retail racks in many of the aspiring game stores that sprouted up with the hobby. We could amass enough for playing games at the company+ level for KG and Task Force encounters (this I think still the reason for getting then and now into the scale, other than having space limitations).

I remember the group making a trip to Wisconsin to get our wants direct we stopped into GHQ like a bunch of school kids (we were), and laid our order sheets out for fulfillment like we had come into a store. After receiving a bit of a lecture, and with our grubby wads of dollar bills exchanged, we were told to buy next time from an authorized GHQ retailer (there weren't any yet in our area so), or by their mail order service in the future. (damn, no more tiny tank road trips) :)))

monk2002uk10 Mar 2023 10:17 a.m. PST

Thanks, FlyXwire. GHQ Models was very important here in the UK as well. I bought my first models back in 1985 – still have them. Back when you could visit the model shop opposite King's Cross Station whilst waiting for the train home ;-)

Robert

Steamingdave210 Mar 2023 12:58 p.m. PST

@monk2002uk

I can see the attraction of being able to produce the more obscure vehicles etc by 3D printing, but do the economics really work? Printer costs may be falling, but they are still not cheap and the consumables needed seem to be quite expensive as well. There is bound to be a learning curve in the process and that will probably entail a lot of waste. I would be interested to know what the "break even point" is for the average gamer.
As someone who has literally thousands of unpainted figures, the real game changer for me would be if 3D printing ever reaches a point where it can produce a tank with Caunter camo or a British Napoleonic hussar in full colour:-)

Joe Legan10 Mar 2023 3:09 p.m. PST

This thread is exactly why I posted. Thank you all for the comments including the trip down memory lane. [ I was in high school and GHQ was too expensive for me then. We did dream of playing squad leader in 3D with their stuff though.]
GHQ has great models, it depends on if the extra detail is worth the cost and that will vary by individual. But now we have some pictures to go by. Also great tip about 3D printing.

Cheers

Joe

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP10 Mar 2023 5:15 p.m. PST

Robert, are we talking about Gamers in Exile? Used to love their adverts in the magazines, but the independent stores were fading out by the time I could get to the UK. I think I got there once, and once to Orc's Nest.

Joe Legan10 Mar 2023 8:31 p.m. PST

I enjoy the Orc's nest. Not many historical miniatures there anymore. I visit every time I am in London. Nice record store across the street.
Cheers

Joe

monk2002uk11 Mar 2023 12:48 a.m. PST

It was Gamers in Exile, yes :-)

Ah the joys of 'browsing' actual figures in the hand…

Robert

monk2002uk11 Mar 2023 1:01 a.m. PST

The economics of 3D printing depends, in part, on the appetite to pay the upfront cost of the printer. There is no doubt whatsoever that the ongoing cost of resin and other consumables is significantly lower than the equivalent cost of metal figures or vehicles. The ability to produce obscure vehicles is just a bonus. I can print a whole WW2 tank brigade in 6mm for about 25% the cost of GHQ Models. This includes the cost of the print trays (which rarely need changing), the wash materials (isopropyl alcohol in my case, which rarely needs refreshing), and the resin. There are no print failures, so wasted prints are rare. Definitely rarer than metal figures with broken spears or ankle joints or whatever.

Here is another example of a model that I created from scratch – an Insect-Class British river gunboat:

Robert

monk2002uk11 Mar 2023 4:06 a.m. PST

Colour 3D printers are now available but are very expensive. The best will print up to 1 million colour variations.

Robert

Heedless Horseman Supporting Member of TMP23 Mar 2023 7:07 p.m. PST

A VERY long time ago… just a kid. But think GHQ may have been produced under licence in UK At Rothbury manufacturer? Got Ma to visit… but cannot remember whether I got any stuff! LONG TIME AGO! Only source for Micro tanks, then, was Blenheim St Model shop, Newcastle… now gone for many years… so has street! Otherwise was mail order!

HazeGray29 Apr 2023 7:57 p.m. PST

I love the 3mm armor line that Pico Armor sells in North America but are made by a Polish company. Their detail is amazing.

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