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Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP21 Feb 2023 8:56 p.m. PST

… Lager Yeast In Ireland


" An elusive ancestor of the yeast species used in modern lager beer has, for the first time, been found in Europe growing in a wooded area of University College Dublin.

Brewing is one of the oldest industries associated with humans, with evidence of fermented beverages from China from 7000 to 8000 years ago, and from Israel from up to 13 000 years ago…"


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JMcCarroll22 Feb 2023 8:12 a.m. PST

Does that mean the Chi-Coms can claim the rights to all of alcohol products?
Or do they have to steal the recipes as they normally do?

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP22 Feb 2023 3:00 p.m. PST

Ha!…

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Mark J Wilson26 Feb 2023 4:44 a.m. PST

The article completely fails to mention how long ago the claimed speciation occurred and thus you cannot assess whether the perceived geographic separation has any meaning. Also by definition a species cannot cross breed so rather like homo neanderthalensis and homo denisova, both of which interbred with homo sapiens and are thus actually homo sapiens what we have here is incorrect taxonomical definition.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP26 Feb 2023 3:41 p.m. PST

Glup!

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Mark J Wilson28 Feb 2023 4:29 a.m. PST

Sorry Tango it's a bit of a beef of mine, people love to 'discover' something new for the benefit of their careers. Far too many are far too free with the definition of 'new' in my opinion, but no one points this out because it might be them pulling the same stunt next year.

As to finding things in the woods I've known people who were told to bring their shoes back dirty from a foreign holiday so that R&D could take samples and see what turned up. In the world of microbes there are literally millions of species we still don't know exist.

Tango01 Supporting Member of TMP28 Feb 2023 3:03 p.m. PST

(smile)


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