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Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2023 8:39 a.m. PST

So, I was considering Setting the East Ablaze and Blood and Valor rules for mid to large skirmish games in BoB. I have the Blood and Valor rules, and they are coming out with an expansion covering BoB next month. From what I have read, which is very little, STEA is for larger than skirmish battles? I also have Through the Mud and the Blood, TMWWBK, Sharp Practice, GASLIGHT, would any of these be suitable. I am mostly thinking along the Chinese borders, so warlord Chinese Japanese and Russians.

TIA – Kevin

Personal logo BrigadeGames Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Feb 2023 10:09 a.m. PST

Contemptible Little Armies Back of Beyond


Blount Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2023 10:20 a.m. PST

Chris Swan's recent _Beyond the Empire: Wargames Rules for Engagements with Small Forces on the Back of Beyond_ (Partizan) is available from On Military Matters. I've picked them up but haven't had a chance to play them yet. To my admittedly untrained eye, they look pretty good.

Prince Rupert of the Rhine16 Feb 2023 10:50 a.m. PST

Years ago we used Chris Peers contemptible little armies with the BoB supplement I don't think my club at the time were massive fans of the rules though they seemed a little clunky.

Personal logo Stosstruppen Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2023 10:52 a.m. PST

Beyond the Empire is probably what I would be looking for. I would be interested in hearing about how they play, and any direct comparisons with Blood & Valor.

nnascati Supporting Member of TMP16 Feb 2023 5:07 p.m. PST

The Sword and the Flame. I played many Chinese Civil War games with it several years ago, worked great.

Woollygooseuk17 Feb 2023 6:59 a.m. PST

Have you looked at Jim Webster's Hell & Uncivil Disorder? It might be at a slightly higher level than you're after, but it's written with precisely these sorts of conflicts in mind.

raylev317 Feb 2023 11:59 a.m. PST

Another vote for The Sword and the Flame.

Mark Plant17 Feb 2023 1:15 p.m. PST

THe most played ones are listed here: link

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