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Tango0102 Feb 2023 8:59 p.m. PST

"American military leaders increasingly speak of China taking offensive action against Taiwan. That's not going to happen. The Ukraine War demonstrated the importance of motivation and morale. The Taiwanese identify with the Ukrainians while the Chinese note that they, like Russia, are basically police state dictatorships while Ukraine and Taiwan are democracies that are highly motivated to innovate and fight to preserve their way of life. China would also suffer much more than Russia from any economic problems an attack on Taiwan would lead to.


China, like Russia, has internal economic and population problems. China's working age population is shrinking and that is having an impact on the military because not enough Chinese are willing to serve. Its economic problems were amplified by recent large-scale covid19 related shutdowns. This triggered widespread open public resistance. The government backed down, unwilling to literally go to war with its people over this. Chinese leaders were then obsessed with there being no covid19 infections at all in China and so imposed the shutdowns. Most Chinese, however, paid attention to what was happening in the rest of the world, concluded that some infections and deaths were preferable to the shutdowns, and took to the streets to coerce the government into shutting down the shutdowns. The breadth and depth of their protests was unprecedented in the history of Communist China, and so threatened the power of the Chinese Communist Party that it submitted to public demands. This set a dangerous precedent for the future…"


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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse03 Feb 2023 11:53 a.m. PST

Gee … they must be students of Sun Tzu … 😎

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP03 Feb 2023 11:58 a.m. PST

Ahhh Legion, but remember they are the holders of an "ancient Chinese secret". 😉

Had to be alive in the 70's. 🙂

Tango0103 Feb 2023 3:14 p.m. PST

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse03 Feb 2023 4:49 p.m. PST

It must be an "ancient Chinese secret" … or classified … or both !

JMcCarroll04 Feb 2023 11:51 a.m. PST

"ancient Chinese secret" 1970's laundry commercial.

Remember it well, still use the line today. Not many know what it means.

Tango0111 Feb 2023 10:03 p.m. PST

On the Leaks of a War With China

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse12 Feb 2023 5:09 p.m. PST

Between the Chinese drugs given to the cartels bringing them coming across our border and now the 4 balloons, plus a number of other things … We may be in a new form of warfare.

Saw the number of Chinese coming across the Southern Border has significantly risen. I'm betting some spies are in those groups. Of course, they may just sneak a cross, like so many other illegal aliens. The CBP, LEOs, etc. have only an estimate of about how many "got aways" there really are.

gregmita212 Feb 2023 6:05 p.m. PST

Saw the number of Chinese coming across the Southern Border has significantly risen. I'm betting some spies are in those groups.

That's also an indication of how bad things are getting in China, and the Chinese government making it hard to leave by regular methods.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse12 Feb 2023 6:53 p.m. PST

Yes, that is true … but the number compared to China's total population is small of course. At this point maybe only a few hundred so far. But as I said it is increasing significantly from the past.

There about 140 countries having people crossing the border. Many from 3d World, failed or failing states or even Europe. E.g. Ukrainians, Russians, Rumanians, etc.

But many are from Central & South America, or even Cuba, Haiti, etc. Plus Africa, the Mid East, A'stan, Iran, etc. Estimates are somewhere around 4-5 million according to the Border Patrol, etc. have crossed the border. Mostly from the South. However, even a few from Canada. That is in basically just over a 2 year period.

It really is a crisis … 90% don't even qualify for asylum.

Tango0128 Feb 2023 10:03 p.m. PST

Will China help Russia with weapons in Ukraine? There are three reasons it might

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse01 Mar 2023 4:48 p.m. PST

If it does it may change some things. However, no matter the equipment the Russian military is still 2d rate. The PRC AFVs etc. will be targets like all the other Russian AFVs, etc. There may just be more of them. But again, the US, NATO, etc. has to get the Ukraine the weapons they need ASAP !

Tango0104 Mar 2023 10:16 p.m. PST

China unveils JARI-USV-A for the first time

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Armand

Tango0107 Mar 2023 10:13 p.m. PST

The myth of China's military might

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Armand

Tango0108 Mar 2023 9:57 p.m. PST

Is China Deliberately Cutting Taiwan's Internet Cables?

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse09 Mar 2023 2:07 p.m. PST

Not just me, but many others, who outranked me, etc. … China could do a lot of damage with a blockage. They are building a lot of ships which with those growing numbers certainly could do a blockade AFAIK.

Cutting all trade, etc., going into or out of Taiwan. The question is how long it will take for them to collapse and become part of the PRC/CCP again. I'd think many of the Taiwan's leaders etc. probably won't be very treated well. E.g. Hong Kong.

Will the US and our Allies in that region break/run the blockage ? Shots could be exchanges, blood spilled, etc. Then will it escalate ?

Tango0113 Mar 2023 9:57 p.m. PST

A Chinese Naval Blockade Of Taiwan Will Send Shockwaves Across The World


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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse14 Mar 2023 8:00 a.m. PST

The PRC/CCP is preparing for war … Deleted by Moderator

The Chinese are students of Sun Tzu … the US leadership … ?

Tango0115 Mar 2023 10:11 p.m. PST

Top Space Force General China Has Launched Hundreds Of Satellites To Target The US


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Armand

Tango0117 Mar 2023 10:37 p.m. PST

China: Problems Without Solutions

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse18 Mar 2023 10:49 a.m. PST

Xi is trying to replace the US not only economically, militarily but diplomatically. They brokered a "peace" deal between arch enemies the KSA & Iran. Probably the Prince of Saudia Arabia didn't like the US leadership calling him a murder, even if he was. Realpolitik … some need to look up what that means. Especially since the US was made no longer energy independent. 'nuff said on that … we know how that happened.

IIRC, Xi is going to the Ukraine to talk to Zelensky soon. Hmmm … Whose next ? Will Xi visit Canada or Mexico ?

Tango0118 Mar 2023 10:11 p.m. PST

Report Says China Is Shipping Weapons, Body Armor, And Drone Parts To Russia

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse19 Mar 2023 3:26 p.m. PST

No surprise there ! When they start sending AFVs, etc. that could be a game changer. Of course, I doubt the Russians will use those any better than their own AFVs.

Escapee Supporting Member of TMP19 Mar 2023 7:51 p.m. PST

No, no surprise. But they need real soldiers who are well trained, and tactical doctrine that goes beyond artillery shelling. Look at how the recent big tank battle went for them. After a year they still drive down a road, no combined alarms, start to get picked off, turn off the road into prepared mine fields and fields of fire. Sending these guys tanks just means the world will end up with fewer tanks, based on their performance s far.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse20 Mar 2023 8:49 a.m. PST

Tort … you got all that right ! And yes … fewer MBTs/AFVs but a lot of scrap metal …

Tango0120 Mar 2023 10:21 p.m. PST

U.S. Intel Helped India Rout China in 2022 Border Clash

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse21 Mar 2023 7:55 a.m. PST

Well, the PRC/CCP has attacked, supported/assisted in attacks the USA, UN & SEATO during the Korean War & Vietnam. So payback is a mutha' Xi …

Tango0130 Mar 2023 10:31 p.m. PST

Philippines: A Sea Of Troubles

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Xi Jinping Says He Is Preparing China for War

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse31 Mar 2023 3:12 p.m. PST

No, no, no … the PRC/CCP knows the #1 priority is climate change …

Tango0104 Apr 2023 10:33 p.m. PST

Chongqing Jianshe Industry from China pioneers portable electromagnetic gun

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse05 Apr 2023 8:13 a.m. PST

Wow ! Sci-fi becoming Sci-fact !

Also, Taiwan has bought a lot of US equipment, that is still awaiting to be delivered. Guess the US has other priorities ?
And many don't have to do with supporting Ukraine.

Tango0105 Apr 2023 10:03 p.m. PST

China Considering An Export Ban On Certain Rare-Earth Magnet Technology


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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse06 Apr 2023 3:15 p.m. PST

"We're Doomed!" "Doomed I tell ya !"

Tango0106 Apr 2023 10:12 p.m. PST

Are Americans Willing to Die for Taiwan?

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Armand

Tango0107 Apr 2023 10:30 p.m. PST

Space: China Goes After Starlink


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China's military buildup shows its ambitions go well beyond Taiwan


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Armand

Tango0121 Apr 2023 10:24 p.m. PST

China Developing Cyberweapons To Hijack Satellites

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Leaked US Intel Suggests First Chinese WZ-8 Drone Unit Established


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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse22 Apr 2023 10:50 a.m. PST

The PRC/CCP is getting very aggressive. In many sectors, etc. In response to the USA's opposite reaction. But at least based on reports. The US will have both male & now female crash test dummies. So, we have that going for us.

Tango0122 Apr 2023 10:08 p.m. PST

U.S. Congress Simulates Chinese Storming Of Taiwan In War Game Exercise (Update)

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Taiwan's Foreign Affairs Minister Predicts When China Will Invade

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Armand

Tango0113 May 2023 10:38 p.m. PST

China's Caribbean Sea

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse14 May 2023 9:49 a.m. PST

The PRC/CCP has been "taking" nations like in a game of RISK for a very long time. Right out of Sun Tzu, to paraphrase, they are winning without going to war. They are everywhere. And even in the US our leaders are letting them to do the same thing in US. In many cases …

When sanctions, etc. that were placed in the past on the PRC/CCP to attempt to stem their "invasion", etc. Some said that was racist, which as we know is very biased and inaccurate POV, etc. It has 0 to do with racism, it has to do with protecting the nation. In one way or another. But as we see today … everything is labelled racist to some in the US. Which in turn creates the fact that if everything in racist then nothing is racist.

Tango0114 May 2023 10:39 p.m. PST

China Has A Plan To Disrupt US Air Force's ‘Kill Chain' And Deflate Its Military

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U.S. Rushing To Build Anti-Missile Defense Systems On Guam

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse15 May 2023 7:19 p.m. PST

Looks like the US may be a day late and a $ short in the PTO …

Tango0119 May 2023 10:27 p.m. PST

China is preparing for war – and the West is preparing to surrender

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Taiwan: One China Principle Or Just A Policy?

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse20 May 2023 11:29 a.m. PST

Well regardless, yes, IMO the West is not prepping for war. E.g. With the US Military's #1 mission is climate change …

Tango0120 May 2023 10:35 p.m. PST

China is Building Killer Robots Using Artificial Intelligence

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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse21 May 2023 10:27 a.m. PST

Yeah … should be no surprise. While the USA is trying to slow down AI development. The PRC/CCP and probably Russia, etc. are going to make Killer AI weapons, e.g. Robots. If we let them get ahead of us/the West, it will be to our disadvantage/peril.

I think with the AI "warnings" is like when nukes became more available in nations on the planet. The fear of nukes, and justifiably to a point, with MAD, etc. would certainly be something to be afraid of/concerned about. But we may have to look at AI in that light. No one has used nukes since the US ending WWII. But again, we can't let the PRC/CCP, etc. get killer AI while we are too wary to do the same.

E.g. even though it is illegal to clone humans. Do you think the PRC/CCP, Russia, etc. have not tried this or will ? However, I do think the US/West at this time should not get involved in this. For a number of reasons. AI is one thing, Clones … not at this time.

Tango0121 May 2023 10:30 p.m. PST

In think tank's Taiwan war game, US beats China at high cost


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Armand

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse22 May 2023 8:02 a.m. PST

Yes, that seems to be the case. Of course, the PRC/CCP has many more bodies to send to war. More will die than the US and Taiwan. For a number of reasons …

Tango0124 May 2023 10:27 p.m. PST

Chinese Scientists War-Game Hypersonic Missile Strikes On US Carrier Group In South China Sea

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Armand

Tango0125 May 2023 10:15 p.m. PST

Microsoft Says China Iinstalled Malware In US Bases In Guam

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Armand

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