Jonnathon | 30 Jan 2023 7:17 p.m. PST |
Going to start in spaceship gaming, first time. Would like info on types of ships to start with, manufacturers, rules etc. These could be plastic or metal. Have limited funds. Would like to get 2 fleets? or groups. No Star Wars or Star Trek, (Too expensive) my buddy says. Any info/recommendations appreciated. Thanks J. |
Bashytubits | 30 Jan 2023 7:50 p.m. PST |
It would be easier to help you if you defined your gaming budget. A company that makes very reasonably priced ships is Studio Bergstrom and if you go on Etsy there are loads of 3d printed ships for sale. If you or any of your friends have a 3d printer Thingiverse has a bunch of free STL files for making your own spaceships. |
Thresher01 | 30 Jan 2023 8:26 p.m. PST |
Studio Bergstrom, as mentioned, does nice minis, including those for Battlestar Galactica. Free rules for various SciFi genres are available online. |
Toaster | 30 Jan 2023 8:42 p.m. PST |
Full Thrust are the best free rules going (and some of the best rules regardless of cost to boot). Ships can be brought, made, or you can find top down counters to print in 2D for a really cheap start and expand to real models later. Some people even make their fleets out of Lego. Robert |
Stryderg | 31 Jan 2023 6:59 a.m. PST |
Go to a dollar store, get some wooden clothes pins: link Start chopping, carving and gluing. These were made from the spring pins: link You don't need many different types of ships for a decent game: destroyer, cruiser, battleship, carrier (and something to mark missiles and fighters, maybe toothpicks) |
Parzival | 31 Jan 2023 7:11 a.m. PST |
Plastic wall anchors, aka "mollies", can make great ships, too. They come in all sorts of sizes:
These are also available:
ustoy.com/toy-space-cruisers |
Stryderg | 31 Jan 2023 9:00 a.m. PST |
I bought a batch of those toy-space-cruisers after being inspired by a guy who chopped them up and added bits to them. He made a fleet of various sized ships using those parts. I never got past ordering the minis. :( I'll have to try and find his pics again. |
Stryderg | 31 Jan 2023 9:06 a.m. PST |
Lots of pics of those space cruisers and other suggestions here: link |
Andrew Walters | 31 Jan 2023 9:42 a.m. PST |
Spaceships are the easiest and most fun thing to scratch build. I have a whole box of dollar store bits that are going to become fleets, someday. |
Jonnathon | 31 Jan 2023 12:32 p.m. PST |
Thanks for the input. Might have a look at the local "Dollar Store", they carry toys. My buddy came up with "GZG" and "Brigade Minis?" as possible sources. Any feed back in regards to these ranges. Thanks J. |
Jonnathon | 31 Jan 2023 12:37 p.m. PST |
BTW We are going to increase our budget based on feedback received so far. Have no choice in order to have a good game. J. |
Stryderg | 31 Jan 2023 2:06 p.m. PST |
Direct link to the lite version of Full Thrust (something like 10 pages): PDF link The full rules can be found here: link |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 31 Jan 2023 8:47 p.m. PST |
Agreed on Full Thrust as an excellent place to start, and on scratch building ships -- for the fun of it even more than cost. I have made ships out of the bodies of ballpoint pens and small box cutters. You just have to look at things correctly. |
Toaster | 31 Jan 2023 8:52 p.m. PST |
GZG and Brigade are both outstanding. GZG is also the publisher of Full Thrust so their ships tie in directly. Brigade's ships are all in the same size range (it's not really a scale) as GZG's and Full Thrust stats for them are available here link Robert |
Parzival | 01 Feb 2023 9:27 p.m. PST |
I have some of GZG's line. Unfortunately, the larger ships I had bent and broke at a thin area of the metal. Otherwise they're impressive looking ships. I will say the scale is sizable, but many ships are in this scale. I also have Studio Bergstrom's Hive Fleet, which are grand looking and very alien (almost buggy) in an HR Giger style. I painted them with "hammered" green metallic spray paint from Rustoleum, and then just added bits of bright color for (possible) weapons points and the engine blasts. Easiest paint job I ever did. Great ships as biologic foes. |
Parzival | 01 Feb 2023 9:47 p.m. PST |
As for rules, I humbly submit GOBS! (Generic Outlandishly Big Spacefleets!) by yours truly. It's a fast and flexible (and generic) rule system for massive fleet battles at an admiral's level. Each ship is two lines of code on the record sheet— for example: BS Cardigan SC-1 T5 M2 Sh 2L 3Ph 2PC Qt3 Pt4 Systems: S W J H M T BOOM Which means "Battleship Cardigan, Size Class -1, Thrust 5, Maneuver 2, Shields, 2 Lasers, 3 Phasers, 2 Plasma Cannons, 3 Quantum torpedoes, 4 Photon torpedoes. Systems: Shields Weapons Jammer Hyperdrive Maneuver Thrust Boom (i.e., blowing up). Damage is recorded by striking across the Systems bit from left to right— 1 slash for damaged, two slashes for destroyed, BOOM circled for utter, glorious destruction. So, rather obviously, an entire fleet of over 20 ships can be tracked on one side of a single sheet of paper. And that's it for record keeping. In any case, it's free: thegobspage.com |
Oberlindes Sol LIC | 04 Feb 2023 10:56 a.m. PST |
Thanks, Parzival. Looking forward to reading and trying them out. |
Parzival | 04 Feb 2023 1:34 p.m. PST |
This and earlier comments have sparked me to return to revisions I was making on GOBS, which got sidelined by a computer crash. (I'm having to reconstruct it from old files, which for some reason the latest version of Pages will not open— well, it will open it, but then locks up trying to open the images in the page layout— a dialog box appears with a process bar appears, but the process bar won't advance, and the box's "cancel" button doesn't function, and the menus won't respond, and the app won't even Quit. Have to Force Quit it every single time. Fortunately, I'd made a PDF, which I am using the cut and paste into a new Pages document… one section at a time. But I'll probably have to rebuild the example images from scratch… In the meantime, players of GOBS are encouraged to increase the Thrust value of all ships by 2, to speed up the process of closing to combat a bit; the original values proved to be too slow. I also strictly use a square grid, which works fine for space combat (it's all abstracted anyway), but hexes and rulers are still a go if that's what you've got. |
Capt Flash | 09 Feb 2023 2:16 a.m. PST |
Good Ol' Boyz Sling in' Lazers! Good game!! Lots of fun! |
ROUWetPatchBehindTheSofa | 09 Feb 2023 12:26 p.m. PST |
Depends on stock and postage probably kills saving depending where you are in the world, but the Plastic Soldier Company sell bags of excess ships from their Red Alert game. link link I have some and I like them. TMP link |
Morpheus1975 | 08 Mar 2023 12:08 p.m. PST |
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