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Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian27 Jan 2023 12:22 a.m. PST

The remains of a Confederate general unearthed from beneath a monument at the center of a Virginia intersection have been reinterred at a cemetery in his hometown…

Fox News: link

35thOVI Supporting Member of TMP27 Jan 2023 7:24 a.m. PST

Bill, but will he able to rest there for good? 🤔

Grattan54 Supporting Member of TMP27 Jan 2023 11:34 a.m. PST

Oh, I hope we can just leave this one alone and not start another flame war over the Civil War statues and other removals.

Personal logo KimRYoung Supporting Member of TMP27 Jan 2023 2:00 p.m. PST

Removing statues is one thing.

Removing bodies is something else.


GamesPoet Supporting Member of TMP27 Jan 2023 5:31 p.m. PST

Some will always feel the need to ask "hardcore" questions, and express their view points, both from their political stance, instead of seeing the positive in having the information provided, and then get back to enjoying the hobby.

And thank you to Bill for posting the link.

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian27 Jan 2023 6:42 p.m. PST

I think he might prefer a quiet cemetery to an intersection.

GamesPoet Supporting Member of TMP28 Jan 2023 7:02 a.m. PST

Seems like a good point.

Cleburne186328 Jan 2023 7:33 a.m. PST

+1 Bill

Bill N28 Jan 2023 11:10 a.m. PST

If he could have been consulted Hill would probably have preferred to remain in Hollywood with men who had served under him, or would have wanted to be buried in the family cemetery.

Northern Rebel28 Jan 2023 8:02 p.m. PST

@Bill N
Unfortunately we'll never no. I wonder if this idea will catch on and sadly be yet another new norm?

Bill N29 Jan 2023 10:30 a.m. PST

We won't know, but if Hill's cousin is to be believed we do have some good hints. Hill was originally buried south of the James because U.S. troops were expected to arrive in Richmond at any moment, and because conditions made it inadvisable to try to convey his remains by ambulance to the family cemetery near Culpeper. Hill's remains were then reinterred at Hollywood just two years later. This was before his widow remarried.

GamesPoet Supporting Member of TMP29 Jan 2023 10:33 a.m. PST

Also, AP Hill being reinterred into a cemetery isn't a crisis, and being buried under a monument in the middle of an intersection doesn't seem to be the norm as well.

Personal logo KimRYoung Supporting Member of TMP29 Jan 2023 7:13 p.m. PST

and being buried under a monument in the middle of an intersection doesn't seem to be the norm as well.

Unless you were a Union Commander


GamesPoet Supporting Member of TMP30 Jan 2023 4:23 a.m. PST

There were a lot more dead people than just commanders, Union or Confederate, after the ACW, and even those with monuments aren't all normally sitting in the middle of an intersection, it's not the norm. And that doesn't include all the rest of the humans that have come and gone over time. However, when the facts are conveniently twisted, all kinds of fun stuff can happen. Before long a flame will ignite, if it hasn't already, and another "war" will begin.

Bill N02 Feb 2023 9:35 p.m. PST

Memorials in the middle of the street were not that uncommon in the 19th century. Parks were not abundant, so many towns stuck them at the courthouse, at the cemetery or in intersections. Check out Baltimore's Washington Monument as a pre-Civil War example. In the days before automobiles it wasn't much of a hinderance to traffic.

From what I can gather Hill's grave ending up in the middle of an intersection seems to be the result of an unfortunate convergence of factors. A bunch of Hell's troops had gotten together to fund a memorial for their late commander. A real estate developer was looking to attract potential purchasers. If you are in the former capital of the Confederacy what could be better than having a memorial to a fallen, beloved general. And not just any memorial, but a memorial that was also the general's grave. So for the cost of a small amount of land in the middle of an intersection the developer got his real estate attraction and Hill's former troops got a grand spot to errect their memorial.

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