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Tango0123 Jan 2023 7:49 p.m. PST

…Human Guinea Pigs in WWII

"As was reported by NPR, 60,000 American soldiers were enrolled in a secret chemical weapons testing program in which they were exposed to mustard gas and the chemical agent lewisite, which causes lung irritation and blisters. Moreover, the U.S. Department of Defense conducted the tests based on the race of the soldiers. Black, Japanese-American and Puerto Rican soldiers were locked in a gas chamber and exposed to the chemicals. White soldiers were used as the control group.

"They said we were being tested to see what effect these gases would have on Black skins," said Rollins Edwards, 93, of Summerville, S.C. "You had no choice. You did not know where you were going. They didn't tell you anything."…"

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Personal logo The Virtual Armchair General Sponsoring Member of TMP24 Jan 2023 10:41 a.m. PST

Shameful. Painful.

War brings out the worst as well as the best in people, and no less in governments.


Wolfhag24 Jan 2023 2:06 p.m. PST

I'm not defending the testing on humans but how else could they find out how it would affect Afro-Americans and people with more melanin in their skin than to test it on them? Extensive testing was done on Caucasians too.

The government did extensive testing on citizens around the US: link

and they were mostly Caucasian – so what?


And the mustard gas experiments in particular, as Caitlin mentioned, some 60,000 American soldiers were used in experiments. But I was quite struck by the nine race-based experiments that I located. There's at least nine. There could have been more, but in the published scientific records, I found experiments on Japanese Americans, African-Americans and Puerto Ricans.

So what's my point? I think it is evident the government tested them on everyone and in WWI and WWII and with segregation many more whites were used in experiments. I don't see much of a link to discrimination.

At least the atomic bomb testing on the military was done on all races: link
From the pictures I've seen of atomic bomb testing on the military, it seems it was very predominately white.

Again – so what? It was bad for everyone.

The testing continues today regardless of race and ethnicity. A biogen was released from a weapons development lab and infected people were flown to every continent infecting billions of people and killing millions. Then an "experimental vaccine" (which was not a normal vaccine) was hurriedly developed without the formal and strict testing process and then forced on billions of people without knowing what the 5+ year long-term effects would be. People are dying that were vaccinated and boosted numerous times. The solution is to vaccinate them 3-4 times a year.

To top it off when evidence of problems with the "vaccine" and the origin of the biogen started appearing the government and media silenced and persecuted anyone that wanted to show the evidence. Even in the US with the 1st Amendment of Free Speech, these people were treated like they would be in an N. Korea tyrannical dictatorship.

The government held harmless the pharma companies so if you suffer adverse effects and/or die you can't sue, too bad. At least this one was not racist.

Yes, it's true, this really did happen.


Tango0124 Jan 2023 2:40 p.m. PST



Blutarski24 Jan 2023 3:18 p.m. PST

Lewisite and Mustard Gas agents hade widely employed during WW1. As a result, it is probably fair to say that their effects upon Caucasian males had already been convincingly demonstrated.

Just saying.


Nine pound round25 Jan 2023 4:34 p.m. PST

It's wrong to use people for painful and injurious medical experiments without their consent, whatever their race, but it took the exposure of what Mengele and his ilk were up to to make the world think twice about it.

Solzhenitsyn's great question, "so, were we any better?" got asked in a lot of different contexts in the years after 1945, and I may be hopelessly optimistic, but I'd like to think we learned not to do a few things that were once commonplace enough that the Nazis tried to cite them to exculpate themselves.

Blutarski25 Jan 2023 5:32 p.m. PST

Conspiracy theories are born easily and die hard.

This must clearly refer to

Conspiracy theory number 1:
The Wuhan exotic creature market being the source.

Conspiracy theory number 2:
Trans-species pass-through infections from wild bats to humans being the source.

Fortunately (in a way) the Wuhan Lab being the source has been pretty well corroborated and documented.

Setting my watch now ….. ;-)


Tango0126 Jan 2023 3:34 p.m. PST



Bill N26 Jan 2023 5:44 p.m. PST

Why is anyone surprised at this?



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