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robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2023 4:38 p.m. PST

I've found a local group whose Napoleonic games are on hiatus. They were playing Empire in 15mm--I didn't ask which edition--but the player who really liked and understood the rules wound up in a nursing home during the plague.

What rules would you recommend for people with a stack of 15mm Napoleonics based for Empire, who found Empire too complicated?

14Bore22 Jan 2023 4:41 p.m. PST

I play Empire, and not changing, but see this question a lot.
Blackpowder is a common answer

Personal logo lewis cannon Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2023 5:13 p.m. PST

Napoleon's Battles is also an option.

Personal logo Mister Tibbles Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2023 5:44 p.m. PST


Valour & Fortitude free rules from the Perry Bros. Easy to use with Empire basing.

Valmy9222 Jan 2023 5:52 p.m. PST

There are a lot of things I like about Le Feu Sacre. Infantry fire is largely rolled into close action. I think it does allow lines to engage in firefights to wear down the enemy. Something not for everyone is that each division rolls for command points a la DBA. Grand tactical movement is on blinds. Been years since I played as the group I'm with now plays other things.

Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian22 Jan 2023 6:24 p.m. PST

Age of Eagles

Cavalry and Artillery need no changes. Infantry an cb used as is or 'doubled' up (to look a bit more like AoE stands) and counted as two

Personal logo aegiscg47 Supporting Member of TMP22 Jan 2023 6:34 p.m. PST

We played Empire for quite a few years, but switched to Age of Eagles when it first came out and have not looked back.

raylev325 Jan 2023 9:51 p.m. PST

Your choice of rules depends on the "level" of units you want as your basic maneuver element. If you want to command larger armies, the Age of Eagles is great. The basic maneuver element is the brigade.

If you want a more tactical game, which is where most rules exist, then I'd recommend Black Powder. The basic maneuver element is the battalion which you fight within a brigade and division structure.

robert piepenbrink Supporting Member of TMP26 Jan 2023 8:21 a.m. PST

Raylev3, I failed to make myself clear. Other people may decide level. My concern is compatibility with existing basing.

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