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Cuprum219 Jan 2023 9:58 p.m. PST

The film is based on real historical events of the early 18th century. Lieutenant Ivan Demarin, by order of the tsar, goes to the capital of the Siberian province – the city of Tobolsk. Here Ivan meets his love – Masha Remezova, the daughter of the famous historian of Siberia – Semyon Remezov. Ivan's friend, the Swedish prisoner of war Johan Gustav Renat, by the will of fate and the intrigues of the Russian governor of Siberia Gagarin, is involved in a secret deal to start a war between the Russians and the Dzungars. The main characters together participate in the expedition of Colonel I. D. Buchholz in 1714-1716. in search of the trading city of Yarkend in Kashgaria and gold deposits on the Raskemdarya River. Founded by an expedition on the edge of the Kazakh steppes, the Yamyshev fortress, in which a Russian detachment winters, is besieged by hordes of Dzungars invading from Central Asia.

The film is posted on YouTube. Unfortunately, there is no English translation.
Movie trailers:

youtu.be/Ca4xNEVUAFo

The battle scene with the attack of the Dzungars on the Russian fort starts at 1:17:16

youtu.be/OfyxJnBPSmw

Enjoy ;)

Kevin C Supporting Member of TMP20 Jan 2023 5:59 a.m. PST

Russian films are often visually stunning -- especially the historical dramas. Thank you for posting.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse20 Jan 2023 6:41 a.m. PST

Also released in the US as "Conquest" and "The Conquest of Siberia." The copy I have has subtitles.

imdb.com/title/tt9795368

I picked up a copy of "Conquest" at the local Dollar Tree about 3 weeks ago. I thought about making a post, but I didn't. I thought it was a pretty mediocre movie. It gets an extra star just for the subject matter.

clibinarium20 Jan 2023 10:06 a.m. PST

I watched this on Amazon last year under the title "The conquest of Siberia". The action scenes are pretty good, and it's a really ripe setting for a wargame.
The film itself isn't that great- I really got the impression that it was edited down from a longer film and its flow suffered badly. I thought it was the Amazon version, but the version posted above seems the same length.
Cuprum; do you know if the released version was edited down quite a lot?

d88mm194020 Jan 2023 12:01 p.m. PST

The "Bouncing Mongolians"! It doesn't get any better than that!

Cuprum220 Jan 2023 3:55 p.m. PST

The title "Conquest of Siberia" does not seem to fit this story. For starters, the clash is taking place not so much in Siberia as in Central Asia. Well, in this case, we are talking about the ideas of a clash of two conquerors, since the Dzungars in this region were also conquerors waging war with local tribes (Kazakhs);)
clibinarium, there is indeed an eight-movie television series of the same name. I agree that this version loses a lot for this reason. Only the first episode of the film is posted on YouTube – you can watch further by subscription.
d88mm1940, alas, such fantastic tricks are used everywhere in modern cinema.

For a better understanding of who the Jungars are:

link

Once it was a formidable force in Central Asia, waging active wars with China, Central Asian states and tribes, sometimes they had border clashes with the Russians. The Dzungars knew how to make and use firearms, and were a serious opponent. The Dzungars were almost completely destroyed by China, the survivors merged with closely related Kalmyk tribes in the territories of present-day Kazakhstan and Russia.

Kashgar riflemen of the Dzungar army, first half of the 18th century. Large-caliber matchlock in a special saddle for transportation.

Dzungarian horsemen of the early 18th century.

Personal logo Wolfshanza Supporting Member of TMP21 Jan 2023 10:18 p.m. PST

Just picked up a copy of Conquest at the Dollar (and a quarter) Tree this afternoon.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse22 Jan 2023 1:12 p.m. PST

I imagine that you can make due with whatever period figures are out there, but there is probably nothing significant written in English on the subject.

Cuprum223 Jan 2023 7:40 p.m. PST

An article by one of the leading Russian scientists studying the topic of the military affairs of the Asian peoples – Leonid Bobrov, dedicated to the military affairs of the Dzungar Khanate (automatic translation):

"Dzungar Khanate – the last nomadic empire"

link

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