"Question for Matakishi" Topic

First off, your "homies" look "kewl".

Second, where did you get the automobile? I've never seen a civilian automobile scaled right for 1/56-1/58-28mm figures.

Thanks!

It's not scaled right, it just looks ok :)
It's a 1/43 scall model from some Chinese maufacturer, I got it off E-bay.

You know, in looking at it, surrounded by all your "homies", it looks like the right scale.

I tend to be rather obsessive when it comes to scale. I have a homemade 1/58 scale ruler that I use to measure toys that can possibly be used. I've seen some 1970s automobiles at a local Wal-Mart that looked great, so maybe I should take another look.

By the way, did you enhance your automobile (paintjob, etc.) at all, and does that eBay seller auction a lot of those toys?

Thanks, again!

Matakishi, who makes those down-for-the-hood soldiers, by the way?

Who makes the Gangsta figures? brilliant paint job by the way.

That's a great paint job, I've looked at those figures a few times but never gotten them, I always thought they were a bit cartoony. Having seen yours however I think it must have been the way they were painted that put me off as yours seem quite realistic. You use a painting style I've always liked and never been able to do. Very cool.

Fellas, those are Bobby Jackson's "Thugz" miniatures. Kinda kewl, ain't they?

Here are a couple of links to see them:

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newwave.org/minis/thugz

And here's an interview with Mr. Jackson about his "Thugz" and other things:

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"Keep it real, homeboyz".

*flashes gang sign*

Also, check out the "Homie Rollerz" range of 1/64 scale automobiles. The cars are rather undersized for 28mm play, but the two figures that come in each pack actually do scale out to 28mm. And yes, they are cartoonish, but if you want a rumble…..

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EM4 do them in the UK

Saginaw

The car is as it comes, there's a whole range of custom types available. I usually stick '1:43' into E-bay and start at the lowest prices. When I see something I like I get it. I've found some excellent vehicles for pennies this way.
I use 1:48 and 1:50 too. I find there's no point being too rigid about a scale as the figures are way out of proportion anyway. Even though they may be 1/56 (or whatever) tall they're all at least 1/48 wide. I go with what looks ok.
There's more photos here showing various vehicles

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Thanks for the link to the Homiez, I'll have to get some of them now.

Dewbakuk

Thanks, I only copied the painted pics they use to advertise the figures, I don't know what these people wear so I needed a reference. :)

The dude with bling all over his chest checking his package with one hand and pointing a pistol gorilla style with the other has to be my favorite. The chicky holding the baby on her hip with one hand and flashing a pistol with the other one's just spooky.

Nice paint job, though!

Clay

The local Toy Liquidator outlet chain sells that series of cars for a few dollars each. I love them.

I like the figs, but have been kind of nervous to game with them in public because someone might be offended. I dislike confrontation.

SOLID!

You make me wanna get into this stuff now! Great job on the bruthas!

Matakishi

and yet the ones you copied still look cartoony to me. I think it's the brightness of their clothing that does it. Still prefer yours.

Nice diorama for sure. Very colorful. Excellent stuff!

I am not being an arseclown here but…Rules of the comp

** The miniature in the photo can be any scale or subject, but it must have been painted by you. The photo must not have been previously posted on the internet.**

I would rather see that rule be ditched than you having to change the entry. They are great looking figs and I cant see how having a previously seen mini can hurt anyone.

Even if the rule was upheld I would lobby for yours to still be allowed in. Im not trying to spoil anyones fun, but I guess if the rule was changed I could get an entry in so there is an element of self interest.

Oh, I didn't see that. Sorry. I'll change it.

You can find those homies seperate from the cars from time to time. They are called micro homies.

I've asked to be withdrawn and I've resubmitted another photo of the same group although now I notice that it says A miniature so maybe I'll just give up and accept this was a bad idea.
I'll go and get on with some painting……

NO! Dont change it for gruds sake man! Lets change the rules insted. Sheet mon they are good enough to get you into the frikkin final, so dont let an old jabberwocky like me blind side ya.

I will be very cross at you if you change your entry. It'll be a case of NO PUDDING FOR YOU! and you want pudding right, I mean everyone wants pudding. Pudding makes the world go round.

oh for s sake now you have made me feel like an utter utter bastard. I demand you withdraw your withdrawl!

Now you've gone and done it! I blame your new persona.

Scurvy would never have behaved like this.

I noticed these cars today, some could be pretty flash if you know how to pimp them up.
Possibly too post-pandemic for most gangstas though:
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trust me, I now feel like a total rules lawyering who shall have a pineapple shoved up his jaxie upon reaching hell for this sin Pol.

The last thing I wanted was for Mat to withdraw I just wanted the rules changed.

Nice paint job. You captured my punk neighbors perfectly, except their cars are all trashed.

I think if the minis are resubmitted minus the car, he's fine on the rules thing.

I just checked the rules page and saw this (my emphasis):

"The photo must not have been previously posted on the internet."

Doesn't say the figures, but the photo.

So I would say that if Matakishi takes a new picture he is perfectly within the rules. I don't think the car is either here nor there.

Oops. I just noticed that Matakishi already said that. Sorry.

I don't see what the car has to do with anything, however it's a moot point, I've asked Bill to withdraw me because I made a mistake and didn't see the bit about the photo.

I have bought some mini homies though, who will live in my city and feed the zombies so today hasn't been a complete waste. :)

Matakishi,

Where did you get the Tintin and Snowy figs? Pic here:

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Nishama

They're made by Mark Copplestone, they're in a Sleuths pack in his gangster range. The dog isn't actually meant to be Snowy, it's Astor from the Thin Man. I converted him by painting him white. :)

Does Polynikes' Compromise work for everyone?

Does Polynikes' Compromise work for everyone?

Works for me. A new picture without the car would be just fine.

Why does it have to be without the car?

It's not the car that contravenes the rules, it's the fact that the picture has been posted on the web before.

Why is everyone so obsessed with the car?

What's the problem with the car?

By the way, I like Polynikes' Compromise.

It sounds really important, like Occam's Razor, Schrodinger's Cat, or Fermat's Last Theorem.

It's just a pity that it isn't really important. Maybe some other meaning will become attached to it one day (in that strange way the English language has of shifting meanings over the centuries), and generations of future scholars will write incredibly boring books about it.

I live in hope…

Polynikes' Compromise:

'If a tree falls in a forest and there's nobody to witness it, can we at least agree that it lands on the car?'

The Polynikes Compromise works for me. The car is fine as well. It is like having some scenery in the background which other people have done too.

I would go as far as saying if the new pic looked EXACTLY the same as the old pic all would be apples. ;)

It's close but there ae several subtle differences. So subtle in fact that they fooled our esteemed Editor. (Until I pointed them out).

Okay, the way I see it, the car is just like when people add stuff to a base to make it fancier. It could have been a set of cavemen with a big rock behind. If that rock was bought from a company who put their picture on their website, did that entry now break the rules?

I see this as pointless. Of course, to be clear, I understand the question being solely an issue of the fact that the car has been photographed before on the internet. Is that it or what?

In answer to, "What's the big deal about the car?"

The miniature in the photo can be any scale or subject, but it must have been painted by you.

And given that the contest is going to be full of vehicles, the car is not the equivalent of a "big rock".

No, the photo is on my website. The car is just scenery as you say but the actual photo is on my website and has been for some time.

I have sent in another photo that has never been on the internet to replace the offending one. According to our Editor AND Polynikes that will suffice.

And given that the contest is going to be full of vehicles, the car is not the equivalent of a "big rock".

I am fairly certain that Matakishi is not trying to pass off the factory paint job on the car as his own. The car is decoration so it is the equivalent of a big rock. OTOH, if the focus was supposed to be on the car then I would agree with you.

well Im glad that kerfuffle is sorted. Sorry about that Mat I hope you can forgive the unintended nit pickery.

Better now than later I feel. Finding I didn't qualify AFTER I'd spent time painting a miniature would be far worse.

The car is decoration […]

Then why did Saginaw ask about it?

And, honestly, when I saw it, I thought it was Matakishi's work. There's nothing that says it isn't — except this thread, but how many of us are rude enough to read a thread addressed to someone else? ;)

yeah I guess better now than when some regie 2 cents vented spleen after you got in and they didnt.

Matashiki I need some help with photo skills, well anyone really. EEQ you have clear photos too so any advice?

Distance is the key. Having used a $2,000 USD camera and a $200 USD camera I prefer the cheap one. It has a macro but no zoom setting. Due to not having the bells and whistles its important to get the distance from camera to fig right. About 20cm works well on my camera.

If you do have a zoom setting dont use it as it will give crystal focus on a small part of the mini and put the edges into fuzzy focus. Sit the camera flat on something solid or use a tripod and clicker button on a cord as well as tiny shakes will effect clarity.

A nice grey or blue background as well helps as the camera will not be trying to get the background into focus as well as the foreground.

Once you have the magic distance worked out mark it so you dont have to find it again with every shot.

Oh and get a true light fluro. I used to shoot in sunny outdoor conditions but these days are much happier with my fluro. Remember different types of artifical light gives off light in different coloured spectrums. Normal light globes give off alot of light in the red spectrum for example. If you have a look at any hydroponics site they give a list of what colour spectrums different lights give off which you can use as a guide.

If you dont have a true spectrum globe then shoot outdoors in the early morning when the light is the most 'pure'

Thanks I'll fiddle with it some more