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28 Oct 2005 1:28 p.m. PST
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Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 4:29 a.m. PST

First off, your "homies" look "kewl".

Second, where did you get the automobile? I've never seen a civilian automobile scaled right for 1/56-1/58-28mm figures.


Matakishi Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 4:39 a.m. PST

It's not scaled right, it just looks ok :)
It's a 1/43 scall model from some Chinese maufacturer, I got it off E-bay.

Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 4:47 a.m. PST

You know, in looking at it, surrounded by all your "homies", it looks like the right scale.

I tend to be rather obsessive when it comes to scale. I have a homemade 1/58 scale ruler that I use to measure toys that can possibly be used. I've seen some 1970s automobiles at a local Wal-Mart that looked great, so maybe I should take another look.

By the way, did you enhance your automobile (paintjob, etc.) at all, and does that eBay seller auction a lot of those toys?

Thanks, again!

Plynkes Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 4:55 a.m. PST

Matakishi, who makes those down-for-the-hood soldiers, by the way?

Personal logo bugsda Supporting Member of TMP28 Oct 2005 4:56 a.m. PST

Who makes the Gangsta figures? brilliant paint job by the way.

Dewbakuk Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 5:08 a.m. PST

That's a great paint job, I've looked at those figures a few times but never gotten them, I always thought they were a bit cartoony. Having seen yours however I think it must have been the way they were painted that put me off as yours seem quite realistic. You use a painting style I've always liked and never been able to do. Very cool.

Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 5:30 a.m. PST

Fellas, those are Bobby Jackson's "Thugz" miniatures. Kinda kewl, ain't they?

Here are a couple of links to see them:


And here's an interview with Mr. Jackson about his "Thugz" and other things:


"Keep it real, homeboyz".

*flashes gang sign*

Personal logo Saginaw Supporting Member of TMP Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 5:36 a.m. PST

Also, check out the "Homie Rollerz" range of 1/64 scale automobiles. The cars are rather undersized for 28mm play, but the two figures that come in each pack actually do scale out to 28mm. And yes, they are cartoonish, but if you want a rumble…..


kreoseus Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 5:37 a.m. PST

EM4 do them in the UK

Matakishi Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 5:52 a.m. PST


The car is as it comes, there's a whole range of custom types available. I usually stick '1:43' into E-bay and start at the lowest prices. When I see something I like I get it. I've found some excellent vehicles for pennies this way.
I use 1:48 and 1:50 too. I find there's no point being too rigid about a scale as the figures are way out of proportion anyway. Even though they may be 1/56 (or whatever) tall they're all at least 1/48 wide. I go with what looks ok.
There's more photos here showing various vehicles


Thanks for the link to the Homiez, I'll have to get some of them now.


Thanks, I only copied the painted pics they use to advertise the figures, I don't know what these people wear so I needed a reference. :)

Tankrider28 Oct 2005 6:01 a.m. PST

The dude with bling all over his chest checking his package with one hand and pointing a pistol gorilla style with the other has to be my favorite. The chicky holding the baby on her hip with one hand and flashing a pistol with the other one's just spooky.

Nice paint job, though!


CPBelt28 Oct 2005 6:48 a.m. PST

The local Toy Liquidator outlet chain sells that series of cars for a few dollars each. I love them.

I like the figs, but have been kind of nervous to game with them in public because someone might be offended. I dislike confrontation.

jonpaul Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 7:03 a.m. PST


Tony Aguilar Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 7:14 a.m. PST

You make me wanna get into this stuff now! Great job on the bruthas!

Dewbakuk Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 7:24 a.m. PST


and yet the ones you copied still look cartoony to me. I think it's the brightness of their clothing that does it. Still prefer yours.

combatpainter Fezian Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 7:58 a.m. PST

Nice diorama for sure. Very colorful. Excellent stuff!

Scurvy Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 8:14 a.m. PST

I am not being an arseclown here but…Rules of the comp

** The miniature in the photo can be any scale or subject, but it must have been painted by you. The photo must not have been previously posted on the internet.**

I would rather see that rule be ditched than you having to change the entry. They are great looking figs and I cant see how having a previously seen mini can hurt anyone.

Even if the rule was upheld I would lobby for yours to still be allowed in. Im not trying to spoil anyones fun, but I guess if the rule was changed I could get an entry in so there is an element of self interest.

Matakishi Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 8:37 a.m. PST

Oh, I didn't see that. Sorry. I'll change it.

cloudcaptain28 Oct 2005 8:40 a.m. PST

You can find those homies seperate from the cars from time to time. They are called micro homies.

Matakishi Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 8:51 a.m. PST

I've asked to be withdrawn and I've resubmitted another photo of the same group although now I notice that it says A miniature so maybe I'll just give up and accept this was a bad idea.
I'll go and get on with some painting……

Scurvy Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 8:53 a.m. PST

NO! Dont change it for gruds sake man! Lets change the rules insted. Sheet mon they are good enough to get you into the frikkin final, so dont let an old jabberwocky like me blind side ya.

I will be very cross at you if you change your entry. It'll be a case of NO PUDDING FOR YOU! and you want pudding right, I mean everyone wants pudding. Pudding makes the world go round.

Scurvy Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 8:56 a.m. PST

oh for Bleeped texts sake now you have made me feel like an utter utter bastard. I demand you withdraw your withdrawl!

Plynkes Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 8:57 a.m. PST

Now you've gone and done it! I blame your new persona.

Scurvy would never have behaved like this.

Area23 Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 9:01 a.m. PST

I noticed these cars today, some could be pretty flash if you know how to pimp them up.
Possibly too post-pandemic for most gangstas though:

Scurvy Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 9:07 a.m. PST

trust me, I now feel like a total rules lawyering Bleeped text who shall have a pineapple shoved up his jaxie upon reaching hell for this sin Pol.

The last thing I wanted was for Mat to withdraw I just wanted the rules changed.

Jana Wang Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 9:12 a.m. PST

Nice paint job. You captured my punk neighbors perfectly, except their cars are all trashed.

I think if the minis are resubmitted minus the car, he's fine on the rules thing.

Plynkes Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 9:27 a.m. PST

I just checked the rules page and saw this (my emphasis):

"The photo must not have been previously posted on the internet."

Doesn't say the figures, but the photo.

So I would say that if Matakishi takes a new picture he is perfectly within the rules. I don't think the car is either here nor there.

Plynkes Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 9:29 a.m. PST

Oops. I just noticed that Matakishi already said that. Sorry.

Matakishi Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 9:47 a.m. PST

I don't see what the car has to do with anything, however it's a moot point, I've asked Bill to withdraw me because I made a mistake and didn't see the bit about the photo.

I have bought some mini homies though, who will live in my city and feed the zombies so today hasn't been a complete waste. :)

Nishsama Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 11:48 a.m. PST


Where did you get the Tintin and Snowy figs? Pic here:


Matakishi Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 12:28 p.m. PST


They're made by Mark Copplestone, they're in a Sleuths pack in his gangster range. The dog isn't actually meant to be Snowy, it's Astor from the Thin Man. I converted him by painting him white. :)

Personal logo Editor in Chief Bill The Editor of TMP Fezian28 Oct 2005 1:27 p.m. PST

Does Polynikes' Compromise work for everyone?

Meiczyslaw Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 2:00 p.m. PST

Does Polynikes' Compromise work for everyone?

Works for me. A new picture without the car would be just fine.

Plynkes Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 2:06 p.m. PST

Why does it have to be without the car?

It's not the car that contravenes the rules, it's the fact that the picture has been posted on the web before.

Why is everyone so obsessed with the car?

Matakishi Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 2:07 p.m. PST

What's the problem with the car?

Plynkes Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 2:09 p.m. PST

By the way, I like Polynikes' Compromise.

It sounds really important, like Occam's Razor, Schrodinger's Cat, or Fermat's Last Theorem.

It's just a pity that it isn't really important. Maybe some other meaning will become attached to it one day (in that strange way the English language has of shifting meanings over the centuries), and generations of future scholars will write incredibly boring books about it.

I live in hope…

Matakishi Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 2:17 p.m. PST

Polynikes' Compromise:

'If a tree falls in a forest and there's nobody to witness it, can we at least agree that it lands on the car?'

Scurvy Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 2:46 p.m. PST

The Polynikes Compromise works for me. The car is fine as well. It is like having some scenery in the background which other people have done too.

I would go as far as saying if the new pic looked EXACTLY the same as the old pic all would be apples. ;)

Matakishi Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 2:51 p.m. PST

It's close but there ae several subtle differences. So subtle in fact that they fooled our esteemed Editor. (Until I pointed them out).

Ratbone28 Oct 2005 3:14 p.m. PST

Okay, the way I see it, the car is just like when people add stuff to a base to make it fancier. It could have been a set of cavemen with a big rock behind. If that rock was bought from a company who put their picture on their website, did that entry now break the rules?

I see this as pointless. Of course, to be clear, I understand the question being solely an issue of the fact that the car has been photographed before on the internet. Is that it or what?

Meiczyslaw Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 3:19 p.m. PST

In answer to, "What's the big deal about the car?"

The miniature in the photo can be any scale or subject, but it must have been painted by you.

And given that the contest is going to be full of vehicles, the car is not the equivalent of a "big rock".

Matakishi Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 3:21 p.m. PST

No, the photo is on my website. The car is just scenery as you say but the actual photo is on my website and has been for some time.

I have sent in another photo that has never been on the internet to replace the offending one. According to our Editor AND Polynikes that will suffice.

Nishsama Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 4:15 p.m. PST

And given that the contest is going to be full of vehicles, the car is not the equivalent of a "big rock".

I am fairly certain that Matakishi is not trying to pass off the factory paint job on the car as his own. The car is decoration so it is the equivalent of a big rock. OTOH, if the focus was supposed to be on the car then I would agree with you.

Scurvy Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 4:42 p.m. PST

well Im glad that kerfuffle is sorted. Sorry about that Mat I hope you can forgive the unintended nit pickery.

Matakishi Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 4:49 p.m. PST

Better now than later I feel. Finding I didn't qualify AFTER I'd spent time painting a miniature would be far worse.

Meiczyslaw Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 4:53 p.m. PST

The car is decoration […]

Then why did Saginaw ask about it?

And, honestly, when I saw it, I thought it was Matakishi's work. There's nothing that says it isn't — except this thread, but how many of us are rude enough to read a thread addressed to someone else? ;)

Scurvy Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 5:04 p.m. PST

yeah I guess better now than when some regie 2 cents vented spleen after you got in and they didnt.

CPT Shanks28 Oct 2005 6:05 p.m. PST

Matashiki I need some help with photo skills, well anyone really. EEQ you have clear photos too so any advice?

Scurvy Inactive Member28 Oct 2005 6:42 p.m. PST

Distance is the key. Having used a $2,000 USD camera and a $200 USD camera I prefer the cheap one. It has a macro but no zoom setting. Due to not having the bells and whistles its important to get the distance from camera to fig right. About 20cm works well on my camera.

If you do have a zoom setting dont use it as it will give crystal focus on a small part of the mini and put the edges into fuzzy focus. Sit the camera flat on something solid or use a tripod and clicker button on a cord as well as tiny shakes will effect clarity.

A nice grey or blue background as well helps as the camera will not be trying to get the background into focus as well as the foreground.

Once you have the magic distance worked out mark it so you dont have to find it again with every shot.

Oh and get a true light fluro. I used to shoot in sunny outdoor conditions but these days are much happier with my fluro. Remember different types of artifical light gives off light in different coloured spectrums. Normal light globes give off alot of light in the red spectrum for example. If you have a look at any hydroponics site they give a list of what colour spectrums different lights give off which you can use as a guide.

If you dont have a true spectrum globe then shoot outdoors in the early morning when the light is the most 'pure'

CPT Shanks28 Oct 2005 7:43 p.m. PST

Thanks I'll fiddle with it some more

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