| Tango01 | 09 Jan 2023 8:45 p.m. PST |
… scene is deeper than you think.
"It happens with most good films- sometimes a good scene from a film gets referenced so much that it becomes cringeworthy.
From the boot camp first half of Full Metal Jacket (which pretty much kicked off the DI caricature) to the desire to know more from Starship Troopers, some lines just get overdone. But how often is a line not only overdone, but also grossly misunderstood?…" Main page
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| Michael May | 09 Jan 2023 9:11 p.m. PST |
The line "I love the smell of napalm in the morning," taken by itself makes it sound like Kilgore is a kill-crazy warmonger."…it smelled like *shrug* victory. Someday this war's gonna end," it was gives it context.
Lots of pathos in that little speach, a sort of mini-tragedy.
Kilgore says it "smelled" like victory, but he knew it wasn't. And he knew that the way the war was being pursued would never result in "real" victory. His warning to Willard that "someday this war's gonna end," was almost like saying "so get it while you can," whatever you want "it" to mean. Action, adventure, blowing things up, promotion, "punching your ticket," etc.
Because both Kilgore and Willard know that the peacetime military is all training, logistics, parades, inspections, maintenance, paperwork and monotony with little or no chance for promotion. All a kind of slow death to people like themselves. |
| Tango01 | 10 Jan 2023 3:06 p.m. PST |
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| Murvihill | 11 Jan 2023 6:01 a.m. PST |
Sometimes people just don't get it. Journalists had a field day with Rumsfield's "Known known" comments, but to military planners it made perfect sense and only proved the journalists didn't understand. |
| uglyfatbloke | 11 Jan 2023 9:41 a.m. PST |
I love the smell of slightly charred MDF in the morning. It smells of…..scenery. |
| Tango01 | 11 Jan 2023 3:13 p.m. PST |
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| Pyrate Captain | 11 Jan 2023 4:36 p.m. PST |
Kilgore explains his meeting adequately. He equates the smell of napalm with victory. Anyone here wish to advocate that a dead enemy isn't a good thing? |
 deadhead  | 12 Jan 2023 7:09 a.m. PST |
But do not put a number to how many you have killed (as if you can possibly tell anyway) and certainly not in a book. |
| Tango01 | 12 Jan 2023 3:07 p.m. PST |
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| Pyrate Captain | 12 Jan 2023 5:38 p.m. PST |
@Deadhead……Prince Harry did…..Lol…. |
| deadhead | 13 Jan 2023 6:54 a.m. PST |
Indeed he did. Not the brightest thing to do. How you can "keep score" from an Apache is beyond me anyway. Why you would do it is even more bizarre. |
| Joe Legan | 17 Feb 2023 5:48 a.m. PST |
Nice article. It is a great but disturbing movie.
Thanks
Joe |
| Tango01 | 05 Mar 2023 4:18 p.m. PST |
Glad you enjoyed it…
Armand
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| Nine pound round | 08 Mar 2023 3:17 p.m. PST |
The line- and the speech- came from John Milius, the man who gave you such moments as Captain Quint's "Indianapolis" speech in "Jaws" (still the greatest dick-measuring scene in the history of Hollywood), and "Go ahead, punk- make my day." The character of Walter Sobchak in "The Big Lebowski" is supposedly a gently satirical portrait of Milius, who volunteered for the Marines during Vietnam but was turned down for medical reasons. |
bases up the rifle teams.
