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Warspite129 Dec 2022 5:10 p.m. PST

…and the execution place for Mary, Queen of Scots.

Fotheringhay Castle in Northamptonshire has not worn well. One might suspect that there was a deliberate attempt to remove it.

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Foreign tourists sometimes think we do not treat our history well and (for this one at least) you might be right.

Barry

42flanker30 Dec 2022 12:40 a.m. PST

I had thought Fotheringay castle was deliberately slighted in the C17th during the Civil Wars, but of no defensive worth, already ruinous, it seems it had been demolished previously.

It seems that this once popular royal residence fell into disuse after the execution of Mary Stuart took place there in 1587. Once he became king, her son James Stuart was, not surprisingly, happy to grant the property to Lord Mountjoy, his Master of Ordnance. Following Mountjoy's disgrace and death the castle, by then in a state of disrepair, was demolished in 1623 and the stone put to other use.

I'd have thought foreign tourists came to Britain because of the wealth of history knocking about–– as well as the pure joy of standing 30-deep on pavements and making the place untidy.

Warspite130 Dec 2022 5:11 a.m. PST

We have a lot of history to see here but it is surprising how much can be allowed to go. I was in Stamford later the same day and was surprised to find that Stamford's motte and bailey castle, also reduced to an earthwork and a couple of walls, had been demolished and cleared as recently as the 1970s!

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It seems the motte was cleared in the 1930s to create a bus station and the bailey area went for housing in the 1970s but not before an extensive archaeological investigation detailed on the link above.

Returning to Fotheringhay the site is a Scheduled Ancient Monument and I have found its Historic England listing:

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Barry

Old Rowley30 Dec 2022 1:03 p.m. PST

Re the Mary, Queen of Scots link, some of the internal features of Fotheringhay Castle were bought up on its demolition and re-installed in the Talbot Hotel in the nearby town of Oundle (I had a temp job in Oundle years ago). So if a tourist is really determined to walk on the exact staircase that Mary did they can do so.

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