| Striker | 19 Dec 2022 12:57 a.m. PST |
I'm looking for something that may not exist but giving it a shot. I'm looking for a set of skirmish rules that also cover games made up of tribal (non-firearm) vs tribal groups. Having firearms spread among the figs works, I'm just not looking for "for line of fire" vs natives type of games. Maybe a pirate game would work but are there rules that would handle the majority of figures armed with hand-hand weapons? I have Donnybrook and TSATF Africa, which may be the best I can do. I don't want to do much/if any rule writing so a dark age skirmish game where I'd have to come up with shooting rules is not something to do. I've seen Tribal but I like dice so not sure if I want to do a card only system. My goal is some Africa based games with a few gun carriers like pirates, slavers, European supplied to a few units; but also be able to have games of tribe vs tribe. |
| Striker | 19 Dec 2022 12:57 a.m. PST |
I'm looking for something that may not exist but giving it a shot. I'm looking for a set of skirmish rules that also cover games made up of tribal (non-firearm) vs tribal groups. Having firearms spread among the figs works, I'm just not looking for "for line of fire" vs natives type of games. Maybe a pirate game would work but are there rules that would handle the majority of figures armed with hand-hand weapons? I have Donnybrook and TSATF Africa, which may be the best I can do. I don't want to do much/if any rule writing so a dark age skirmish game where I'd have to come up with shooting rules is not something to do. I've seen Tribal but I like dice so not sure if I want to do a card only system. My goal is some Africa based games with a few gun carriers like pirates, slavers, European supplied to a few units; but also be able to have games of tribe vs tribe. |
| Prince Rupert of the Rhine | 19 Dec 2022 1:09 a.m. PST |
Maybe have a look at these. Disclosure I haven't played them but it does sound like it's designed for what you want link |
| Striker | 19 Dec 2022 2:10 a.m. PST |
Thanks for the link. Yep I saw those. Not into card-only games but barring anything else fitting the bill they may be my only option. Would like to hear from someone who's played them. |
| John G | 19 Dec 2022 2:30 a.m. PST |
Take a look at Irregular Wars or the updated version Fantastic Battles. May be able to solve your problem. |
GildasFacit  | 19 Dec 2022 2:38 a.m. PST |
Another vote for Irregular Wars. Doesn't use single figures but bases representing groups of fighters. Simple mechanisms and fun to play rather than 'realistic' but a game can switch from disaster to triumph very quickly. |
| Striker | 19 Dec 2022 3:05 a.m. PST |
Yep I saw the basing, watching the youtube discussion. Only thing is I have no figures based in groups and all are single, won't be doing it in the future. Looking for more skirmish sizes (20-30 minis per side max). |
| Dexter Ward | 19 Dec 2022 3:44 a.m. PST |
Donnybrook is very good, and works well even if no firearms |
| colgar6 | 19 Dec 2022 4:04 a.m. PST |
Sounds pretty much like Congo to me. Although nominally set in 19th Century "Darkest Africa", I've heard suggestions that it could just as easily be used for S.E. Asia (Settlers, local princedoms, Borneo headhunters &c) or Central Americal ("Lost Expedition" territory). One of my favourite sets of rules: link |
| Striker | 19 Dec 2022 4:18 a.m. PST |
I forgot all about Congo. I'll re-read through Donnybrook also. I've been watching Viv's old Tribal play learn-to-play videos and that looks interesting as well. |
FusilierDan  | 19 Dec 2022 5:10 a.m. PST |
Have you looked at Flint & Feather? The main focus id pre-gunpowder Indigenous combat. link
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| 4DJones | 19 Dec 2022 7:39 a.m. PST |
A Good Day to Die Hoka-Hey .. if you can find a copy. |
 Extra Crispy | 19 Dec 2022 7:54 a.m. PST |
Congo covers exactly what you want. |
| Royal Air Force | 19 Dec 2022 9:37 a.m. PST |
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| Grattan54 | 19 Dec 2022 11:11 a.m. PST |
Yes, I agree, A Good Day to Die by Chris Peers would work well. |
| Grattan54 | 19 Dec 2022 11:12 a.m. PST |
Also, Song of Drums and Tomahawks works well for what you are looking for. |
| nnascati | 19 Dec 2022 1:12 p.m. PST |
Striker,
Tribal is a good game. It takes a few turns to get used to the mechanics, but it works. I've even played it solo. |
| Striker | 19 Dec 2022 9:18 p.m. PST |
Lots to check out. I've got Tribal coming and may pick up Congo. |
| Kuznetsov | 20 Dec 2022 8:24 a.m. PST |
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 Bobgnar | 24 Dec 2022 6:04 p.m. PST |
Mega dittos to Extra Crispy. Congo is a great skirmish game. Originally set in late colonial Africa with Euro, Arab, and two different native cultures. I have expanded the temporal-spatial domain to WW1 in East Africa. Pirates in Africa 1700, Vikings vs Skraelings in Vineland, Carl Denham on Skull Island, Romans vs Druids 46AD Britain, others have done HEI Company vs Thuggees, conquistadors vs Aztecs, Lost City of Z, exploring Venus, and others. |
