4th Cuirassier  | 13 Dec 2022 4:15 a.m. PST |
I've been aware of the ink wash technique for a long time and I use it now and then especially on dark blue and dark green uniforms to make them look more 3D. These ink colours are normally fairly translucent so you can't really paint with them. I've just used some of this, however, link …to paint the frogging on plastic Airfix hussar uniforms. To say I am blown away is understating the matter. It goes on from the bottle in beautiful, thin, opaque lines, it doesn't clog the brush, and it doesn't run all over the place because you watered it down too much trying to make it flow. I don't really 'do' pure black or white on figures anywhere but I'm going to make an exception here. Recommended. |
Lucius | 13 Dec 2022 4:31 a.m. PST |
What base color do you use? White? |
4th Cuirassier  | 13 Dec 2022 5:09 a.m. PST |
It works over any colour apparently. I've been doing white braid over very dark, almost black, hussar pelisses and dolmans. The white is completely opaque. |
ccmatty  | 13 Dec 2022 5:30 a.m. PST |
Would you happen to have any photos of the figures you have painted using this? I am interested to see how this looks. |
JimDuncanUK | 13 Dec 2022 6:37 a.m. PST |
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4th Cuirassier  | 13 Dec 2022 7:11 a.m. PST |
I will take some when I am back at the bench. |
Martian Root Canal | 13 Dec 2022 8:14 a.m. PST |
A little over six bucks shipped from Amazon for 14 oz. bottle. Ordered one. |
mjkerner | 13 Dec 2022 9:58 a.m. PST |
Just to be clear, you are using the ink as a straightforward paint, not as a wash? I have a number of W & N inks (no white)that I use for washews, and they do need need some dilution, but still can't imagine using any of them for straight paint. |
Flashman14  | 13 Dec 2022 10:42 a.m. PST |
Great tip! I would like to see the final result, though I suspect it works as described. |
Sgt Slag  | 13 Dec 2022 10:46 a.m. PST |
Will the shellac carrier yellow, over time? Do the other inks yellow over time? Thanks for sharing -- I can use a white wash for mini's I'm working to finish. Excellent timing! Cheers! |
4th Cuirassier  | 13 Dec 2022 11:01 a.m. PST |
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4th Cuirassier  | 13 Dec 2022 11:08 a.m. PST |
I struggle with Flickr but this gives the gist. The third photo looks a bit yellow but that's the macro effect – the white is titanium white. Only the braid is white ink. Yes, you just apply straight from the ink bottle and it's completely opaque, even over the darkest blue I use, in one pass of the brush. Apply like a paint, and it sits where you put it. Go over the ragged edges (where the pelisse sleeves are) with W&N Violet ink and it vanishes completely. I have to see if the yellow's as good for RHA braid. These are WIP obvs and will look better when finished but this is to show what you get with the improbable white ink. Who knew of such a thing. The packaging says "All coloured inks are impermanent with the exception of black and white"!! |
mjkerner | 13 Dec 2022 12:00 p.m. PST |
Great, thanks for the tipping us off to your discovery, 4th! |
optional field | 13 Dec 2022 12:21 p.m. PST |
😲. 4th that's incredible. Thanks for making us aware. |
Lucius | 13 Dec 2022 12:36 p.m. PST |
I ordered a bottle as well. Thanks for the tip – it will be fun to try. |
JimDuncanUK | 13 Dec 2022 12:43 p.m. PST |
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advocate | 13 Dec 2022 1:03 p.m. PST |
Looks like something for me to try. Thanks |
dbf1676 | 13 Dec 2022 2:21 p.m. PST |
Bought one. For less than a Chik fil A sandwich, its worth a try!! |
4th Cuirassier  | 13 Dec 2022 3:27 p.m. PST |
The gold and silver are stupendous too. They look like liquid precious metal. |
Yellow Admiral  | 13 Dec 2022 8:37 p.m. PST |
FWIW I've been using white FW acrylic ink the same way since the 1990s. I also use it as an actual ink sometimes, dipping a calligraphy pen to write names and data on the bottoms of miniatures. It dries white, hasn't yellowed in over 20 years, and flows very well. Like the Winsor & Newton white, it's very opaque. |
Extrabio1947  | 14 Dec 2022 9:24 a.m. PST |
Can you paint over it if need be, or does the ink bleed through? |
4th Cuirassier  | 14 Dec 2022 12:03 p.m. PST |
You can paint over it without any problems . |
Fred Mills | 14 Dec 2022 3:51 p.m. PST |
Great suggestion, and thanks for sharing the pics. I'll be ordering that for sure. |
DHautpol | 19 Dec 2022 9:26 a.m. PST |
Be wary of the metallics, although they are lovely to use. I used to use the Silver Ink for silver braid etc. I then varnished some figures with W&N Galeria Matt and the silver lifted and spread across the varnished areas. It looked as if they were wearing sequins. I usually gloss varnish with Humbrol Clearcote Gloss and then matt varnish and this prevents the problem. |
DHautpol | 20 Dec 2022 1:38 p.m. PST |
Reading my post above, I realise that I should have said that on that occasion I had not gloss varnished beforehand and had applied the Galeria Matt directly on to the painted surface. |
Scott Sutherland | 25 Dec 2022 6:44 a.m. PST |
For anyone looking to try to upgrade some of their paint effects check out the range of whites from W&N. FYI see link Some are deliberately formulated to take the edge off bright colours (such as in highlighting), opaque, or even transparent. |
4th Cuirassier  | 05 Jan 2023 3:57 a.m. PST |
I usually dip plastics in Klear / Future after painting them and finish with a coat of matt varnish. If using the dark or metallic inks, the Klear basically dissolves them, so I have had to varnish first, then Klear, then revarnish. Klear has no discernible effect on the white ink, however. |
Yellow Admiral  | 06 Jan 2023 8:18 p.m. PST |
That's interesting. I've had the same problem with Future and brush-on Testors Dullcote destroying my acrylic ink washes, stains, lines, etc. Does it help if they're allowed to cure for a few days? I had a hypothesis that fully cured acrylic ink might not dissolve, but I've yet to test it. - Ix |